[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

Mon Mar 2 13:04:34 UTC 2015

Plunk! (penny drops)
I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake!
Thanks again Julian.

On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you go to www.stackage.com/lts/1.10, you'll find a hoogle search box.
> It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.
>
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I don't
>> understand what you mean by "they run a hoogle for the exact version,
>> with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as excited as
>> everybody else right now! LOL :)
>>
>>
>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every
>>> library. :)
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight
>>>> Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!
>>>> Getting excited about Haskell again.
>>>> THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell
>>>>> may help you. I described how to use it here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope someone finds it useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
>>>>>> assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
>>>>>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
>>>>>> sure it's available to Joe Public please!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that
>>>>>> works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time
>>>>>> savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much)
>>>>>>> here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people
>>>>>>> is not a good way to get help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always
>>>>>>> been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good
>>>>>>> and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and
>>>>>>> potatoes development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to
>>>>>>> install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a
>>>>>>> bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines
>>>>>>> of API documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all
>>>>>>> there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and
>>>>>>> "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just
>>>>>>> the equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I
>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about
>>>>>>> Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he
>>>>>>> realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure.
>>>>>>> It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next stop
>>>>>>> will be sml or ocaml.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - DJ -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I feel your pain...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of
>>>>>>>> frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language
>>>>>>>> today, and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run
>>>>>>>> into the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real shame.
>>>>>>> Those with better education and understanding than mine should be concerned
>>>>>>> that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of
>>>>>>> group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that
>>>>>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now
>>>>>>>> as they were when I left ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for
>>>>>>> some time to come...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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