[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

Julian Birch julian.birch at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 12:34:07 UTC 2015


It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every
library. :)

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:

> Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight
> Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!
> Getting excited about Haskell again.
> THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)
>
>
> On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julian.birch at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell may
>> help you. I described how to use it here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx
>>
>> Hope someone finds it useful.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sean at objitsu.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
>>> assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
>>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
>>> sure it's available to Joe Public please!
>>>
>>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that works
>>> BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time savers...it's such
>>> a shame when they won't play well together!
>>>
>>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much)
>>>> here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people
>>>> is not a good way to get help.
>>>>
>>>> But:
>>>>
>>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always been
>>>> perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good and/or
>>>> interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and potatoes
>>>> development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>>>>
>>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to install.
>>>> The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a bit. I was
>>>> always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines of API
>>>> documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all there was
>>>> in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and "figure it
>>>> out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just the
>>>> equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I think.
>>>>
>>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about
>>>> Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he
>>>> realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>>>>
>>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure.
>>>> It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next stop
>>>> will be sml or ocaml.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> - DJ -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I feel your pain...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of frustration
>>>>> with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language today, and to
>>>>> start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run into the problem
>>>>> that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real shame.
>>>> Those with better education and understanding than mine should be concerned
>>>> that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>>>>
>>>>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of
>>>> group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that
>>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now as
>>>>> they were when I left ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for some
>>>> time to come...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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