[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

emacstheviking sean at objitsu.com
Mon Mar 2 12:21:54 UTC 2015


Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight
Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!
Getting excited about Haskell again.
THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)


On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell may
> help you. I described how to use it here:
>
>
> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx
>
> Hope someone finds it useful.
>
> J
>
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
>> assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
>> sure it's available to Joe Public please!
>>
>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that works
>> BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time savers...it's such
>> a shame when they won't play well together!
>>
>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much)
>>> here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people
>>> is not a good way to get help.
>>>
>>> But:
>>>
>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always been
>>> perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good and/or
>>> interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and potatoes
>>> development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>>>
>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to install.
>>> The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a bit. I was
>>> always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines of API
>>> documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all there was
>>> in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and "figure it
>>> out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just the
>>> equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I think.
>>>
>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about
>>> Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he
>>> realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>>>
>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure.
>>> It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next stop
>>> will be sml or ocaml.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> - DJ -
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>>>
>>>   I feel your pain...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of frustration
>>>> with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language today, and to
>>>> start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run into the problem
>>>> that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not work.
>>>>
>>>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real shame.
>>> Those with better education and understanding than mine should be concerned
>>> that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>>>
>>>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of
>>> group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that
>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now as
>>>> they were when I left ;-)
>>>>
>>>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for some
>>> time to come...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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