[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

[emacstheviking]

Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
sure it's available to Joe Public please!

As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that works BUT
there are some many great libraries that a real time savers...it's such a
shame when they won't play well together!

So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !

:)


On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:

>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much) here,
> because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people is not
> a good way to get help.
>
> But:
>
> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always been
> perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good and/or
> interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and potatoes
> development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>
> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to install. The
> second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a bit. I was
> always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines of API
> documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all there was
> in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and "figure it
> out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just the
> equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I think.
>
> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about Yesod.
> For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he realized
> that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>
> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure. It's
> just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next stop will be
> sml or ocaml.
>
> Best,
>
> - DJ -
>
>
> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>
>   I feel your pain...
>
>
>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of frustration with
>> cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language today, and to
>> start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run into the problem
>> that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not work.
>>
>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real shame. Those
> with better education and understanding than mine should be concerned that
> the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>
>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of group
> theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that alone I am
> glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>
>
>
>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now as
>> they were when I left ;-)
>>
>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for some
> time to come...
>
>
>
>
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