[Haskell-beginners] How Haskell Fits Into an Operating System / API Environment
KKelleher at homesite.com
Wed Aug 14 21:04:43 CEST 2013
I have had the same frustration. It feels like you're learning a foreign language
that doesn't have any vocabulary for walking directions, prices, or ordering food.
So, while you could discuss philosophy, say, you wouldn't be able to ask for a
drink of water, or how to find the bathroom.
I do believe there is a payoff to studying Haskell, and I do keep plugging away,
rather inconstantly. It's difficult, because I don't really have the time now,
but hopefully I can devote some of an upcoming vacation to make what I
know of Haskell finally touch the ground.
From: Beginners [mailto:beginners-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Tetley
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:45 AM
To: The Haskell-Beginners Mailing List - Discussion of primarily beginner-level topics related to Haskell
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] How Haskell Fits Into an Operating System / API Environment
I tend to see OO subtyping and heterogeneous collections as more an impediment to (pure) functional integration with the "rest-of-the-world" than state. There are a lot of quality wrappers to stateful C libraries from Haskell, but few to object oriented C++ or Objective C libraries.
On 11 August 2013 16:10, Philippe Sismondi <psismondi at arqux.com<mailto:psismondi at arqux.com>> wrote:
As a result of this little thread I have come to another conclusion, and this is just my subjective view. Most of the software that I am interested in seems to live most comfortably with a stateful conception of the world. (The native libraries I find most useful certainly are stateful.) I am reasonably competent with monads and monad transformers in Haskell. But, to be honest, after three years of pluggin away at Haskell, I am not the least convinced that the problem of handling a changing external world in a pure functional language has been successfully solved by those techniques. I always feel as though I am using the robot arm on a space shuttle when a screwdriver would do. (Again, no need to rebut this - I may be wrong or just to stupid to use Haskell effectively - so be it.)
Perhaps in the end I do not really believe that functional programming is the panacea that its devotees claim it to be.
This message (including any attachments) is intended only for
the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and
may contain information that is non-public, proprietary,
privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under
applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product.
If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this
communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and
(i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message
immediately if this is an electronic communication.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
More information about the Beginners