[Haskell-beginners] Haskell as a useful practical 'tool' for intelligent non-programmers

umptious umptious at gmail.com
Mon Apr 30 03:32:26 CEST 2012

> Your message is not related to my post, and a good indication is that
> the given quote is incomplete even for the purpose of making the point
> of that particular experiment.

If you don't believe that 1 to 1 tuition is a help learning a language,
then why did you provide it? What's the point of lists like this where
people can ask questions? Of course it is a help!

> Then that point alone is also not enough
> either, because there is a strong connection between the two examples I
> mentioned.

There would be a "strong connection" if each individual in the group got as
much time as your friend did and this time was provided to them in the same
way as she received it, motivation was the same, etc. But this isn't what
you said!

> All in all you apparently didn't understand a word of my
> post.

Obviously I disagree: I think that I understood what you wrote and found it

-You can't conclude that because two groups are differentiated by property
X (in this case previous programming experience, with lack of it being more
favourable to learning Haskell) then property X is responsible when the
outcome of a test procedure is different. ***Not unless the test procedure
is the same and those groups are the same.***

Which wasn't the case, not nearly. Individual tuition over a time is an
ideal way to learn a language, while short taught courses are an utter
waste of time - a decent book is better.

Concluding that differences in outcome *had* due to be due to anything else
than the different methods in teaching, time spent, motivation,
relationship with the students, etc, is... well, if this was a science
paper you'd be getting a fail grade. There are so many factors here that
you haven't controlled for that it is silly. There are probably
creationists and global warming deniers who would be shocked at your
selecting the answer that you want from a host of possible ones. You've
picked X, but Y, Z, U, A, B and Alpha were all possible!

But all this is moot - the guy isn't learning to program for fun but for a
purpose. Sagemath and R have the libraries and R in particular seems to be
a lingua franca in econometrics and time series analysis, which are
probably relevant. Haskell would be a poorer tool in this area than R,
simply because knowing it wouldn't allow the guy to read useful papers.
Then there are libraries to consider...
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