qualified imports, PVP and so on (Was: add new Data.Bits.Bits(bitZero) method)

[Erik Hesselink]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Michael Snoyman <michael at snoyman.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM, John Lato <jwlato at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Upper bounds lead to a better user experience.
>
> That's what I'm disagreeing with. I do not believe that, overall, the PVP is
> giving users a better experience. I've had a huge downturn in reported
> errors with Yesod since I stopped strictly following the PVP. It's
> anecdotal, but everything in this thread is really anecdotal.

But you also tell people to use stackage and yesod-platform, which
fixes a lot of packages to a specific version, IIRC. That means that
not having upper bounds is kind of moot.

As a counter-anecdote, almost all build-related problems we've had in
the past year have been (http-)conduit or tls related, due to the lack
of upper bounds.

Erik