[Haskell-community] 2018 state of Haskell survey results

Simon Peyton Jones simonpj at microsoft.com
Mon Nov 19 10:51:34 UTC 2018


Just wanted to add in: good catch Gershom on identifying the problem, and thank you Taylor for working to remove them from the report.

I'd like to add +1 to that.

It's a source of astonishment, and some dismay, to me that anyone would go to so much trouble to affect a survey about Haskell.  (Brexit, perhaps, but Haskell??)

But many thanks to Gershom and Taylor for dealing with it so professionally.

Simon


From: Haskell-community <haskell-community-bounces at haskell.org> On Behalf Of Michael Snoyman
Sent: 18 November 2018 19:32
To: Taylor Fausak <taylor at fausak.me>
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-community] 2018 state of Haskell survey results

Just wanted to add in: good catch Gershom on identifying the problem, and thank you Taylor for working to remove them from the report.


On 18 Nov 2018, at 21:17, Taylor Fausak <taylor at fausak.me<mailto:taylor at fausak.me>> wrote:

Great catch, Gershom! There are indeed about 300 responses that tick all the boxes except for disliking the new GHC release schedule. The main thing the attacker seemed to be interested in was over-representing Stack and Stackage. Also, bizarrely, Java.

That brings the number of bogus responses up to 3,735, which puts the number of legitimate responses at 1,361. For context, last year's survey asked far fewer questions and had 1,335 responses.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Imants Cekusins wrote:
What if the announcement mentioned a large number of potentially bogus responses, explained the grounds for this conclusion, with a new survey conducted early next year?

The next survey would then need to be done differently from this one somehow. To improve the reliability, some authentication may be necessary.


Maybe Stack, Cabal questions could be grouped as separate distinct surveys, conducted by their maintainers through own channels?

Not sure how much value is in exact numbers of users of Stack or Cabal. Both groups are large enough. The maintainers of both groups are aware about usage stats.

Is either library likely to be influenced by this survey?
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