[Haskell-community] 2018 state of Haskell survey results

Gershom B gershomb at gmail.com
Sun Nov 18 20:07:45 UTC 2018


The language extensions section doesn’t appear to be sorted properly.
Outside of that, I think that these results are looking much better and any
effort to find any additional outliers is probably not worth it for the
moment. Thanks for your work on this, and I appreciate you being responsive
and attentive when problems with the data were pointed out. There’s
certainly some interesting and helpful information to be gleaned from this
data.

Cheers,
Gershom



On November 18, 2018 at 2:55:10 PM, Taylor Fausak (taylor at fausak.me) wrote:

Ok, I updated the function that checks for bad responses, re-ran the
script, and updated the announcement along with all the assets (charts,
tables, and CSV). Hopefully it's the last time, as I can't justify spending
much more time on this.

https://github.com/tfausak/tfausak.github.io/blob/6f9991758ffeed085c45dd97e4ce6a82a8b1a73f/_posts/2018-11-18-2018-state-of-haskell-survey-results.markdown


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Michael Snoyman wrote:

Just wanted to add in: good catch Gershom on identifying the problem, and
thank you Taylor for working to remove them from the report.

On 18 Nov 2018, at 21:17, Taylor Fausak <taylor at fausak.me> wrote:

Great catch, Gershom! There are indeed about 300 responses that tick all
the boxes except for disliking the new GHC release schedule. The main thing
the attacker seemed to be interested in was over-representing Stack and
Stackage. Also, bizarrely, Java.

That brings the number of bogus responses up to 3,735, which puts the
number of legitimate responses at 1,361. For context, last year's survey
asked far fewer questions and had 1,335 responses.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Imants Cekusins wrote:

What if the announcement mentioned a large number of potentially bogus
responses, explained the grounds for this conclusion, with a new survey
conducted early next year?

The next survey would then need to be done differently from this one
somehow. To improve the reliability, some authentication may be necessary.


Maybe Stack, Cabal questions could be grouped as separate distinct surveys,
conducted by their maintainers through own channels?

Not sure how much value is in exact numbers of users of Stack or Cabal.
Both groups are large enough. The maintainers of both groups are aware
about usage stats.

Is either library likely to be influenced by this survey?
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