<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">The language extensions section doesn’t appear to be sorted properly. Outside of that, I think that these results are looking much better and any effort to find any additional outliers is probably not worth it for the moment. Thanks for your work on this, and I appreciate you being responsive and attentive when problems with the data were pointed out. There’s certainly some interesting and helpful information to be gleaned from this data.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Cheers,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Gershom</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1542571182305412096" class="bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">On November 18, 2018 at 2:55:10 PM, Taylor Fausak (<a href="mailto:taylor@fausak.me">taylor@fausak.me</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div>Ok, I updated the function that checks for bad responses,
re-ran the script, and updated the announcement along with all the
assets (charts, tables, and CSV). Hopefully it's the last time, as
I can't justify spending much more time on this.<br></div>
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<div>On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Michael Snoyman
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<div>Just wanted to add in: good catch Gershom on identifying the
problem, and thank you Taylor for working to remove them from the
report.<br></div>
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<div>On 18 Nov 2018, at 21:17, Taylor Fausak <<a href="mailto:taylor@fausak.me">taylor@fausak.me</a>>
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Great catch, Gershom! There are indeed about 300 responses that
tick all the boxes except for disliking the new GHC release
schedule. The main thing the attacker seemed to be interested in
was over-representing Stack and Stackage. Also, bizarrely,
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That brings the number of bogus responses up to 3,735, which puts
the number of legitimate responses at 1,361. For context, last
year's survey asked far fewer questions and had 1,335
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On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Imants Cekusins
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<div>What if the announcement mentioned a large number of
potentially bogus responses, explained the grounds for this
conclusion, with a new survey conducted early next
year?<br></div>
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<div>The next survey would then need to be done differently from
this one somehow. To improve the reliability, some authentication
may be necessary.<br></div>
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<div>Maybe Stack, Cabal questions could be grouped as separate
distinct surveys, conducted by their maintainers through own
channels?<br></div>
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<div>Not sure how much value is in exact numbers of users of Stack
or Cabal. Both groups are large enough. The maintainers of both
groups are aware about usage stats.<br></div>
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<div>Is either library likely to be influenced by this
survey?<br></div>
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