From asjo at koldfront.dk  Sat Nov  2 09:39:06 2019
From: asjo at koldfront.dk (=?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?=)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 10:39:06 +0100
Subject: [xmonad] spawnOn in startupHook only works for one Nemo window,
	not the other
Message-ID: <87wocipqh1.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk>

  Hi,

I'm using spawnOn in my startupHook to open various programs on various
virtual desktops when logging in - it's quite nice to have that happen
automatically.

I start two instances of the Nautilus (file manager) fork Nemo:

  spawnOn "7" "nemo ~/video/"
  spawnOn "7" "nemo ~/video/tablet/"

But only one of them ends up on desktop 7. The one other is placed on
the current desktop.

I have tried adding a "sleep 2;" to one of them, to see if it was some
timing thing, but the same thing happens.

I have also tried to combine them, and have one line starting "nemo
~/video/" nemo ~/video/tablet/", same thing.

Oh, and as I am typing this, I realize that the second invocation
probably doesn't start a lasting separate process, but messages the
first to open a new window, and that original process then opens it,
might be why spawnOn seems to "not work".

Maybe I should just use manageSpawn to have all Nemo windows end up on
desktop 7.

I guess I have rubber ducked myself into the answer, but any comments
are welcome regardless.

  Best wishes,

    Adam

-- 
"Please don't "meh" the panopticon. You are                  Adam Sjøgren
 not making things better by doing that."                asjo at koldfront.dk


From allbery.b at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 10:30:47 2019
From: allbery.b at gmail.com (Brandon Allbery)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 06:30:47 -0400
Subject: [xmonad] spawnOn in startupHook only works for one Nemo window,
 not the other
In-Reply-To: <87wocipqh1.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk>
References: <87wocipqh1.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk>
Message-ID: <CAKFCL4Wm6CQ+SH282+Zss4swYG7i-bz=HJ+SMWOD-Yiu-KJujg@mail.gmail.com>

This is a symptom of "factory windows". spawnOn can't work for them, you
need to find out the application-specific way to attach distinct
identifiers to windows, because _NET_WM_PID will never match for any but
the first window opened (and sometimes not then). And no, neither spawnOn
nor any similar mechanism will be able to find a "fix",, because
"application specific" — and even then not every application bothers to
provide a mechanism to label specific windows.

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 5:39 AM Adam Sjøgren <asjo at koldfront.dk> wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> I'm using spawnOn in my startupHook to open various programs on various
> virtual desktops when logging in - it's quite nice to have that happen
> automatically.
>
> I start two instances of the Nautilus (file manager) fork Nemo:
>
>   spawnOn "7" "nemo ~/video/"
>   spawnOn "7" "nemo ~/video/tablet/"
>
> But only one of them ends up on desktop 7. The one other is placed on
> the current desktop.
>
> I have tried adding a "sleep 2;" to one of them, to see if it was some
> timing thing, but the same thing happens.
>
> I have also tried to combine them, and have one line starting "nemo
> ~/video/" nemo ~/video/tablet/", same thing.
>
> Oh, and as I am typing this, I realize that the second invocation
> probably doesn't start a lasting separate process, but messages the
> first to open a new window, and that original process then opens it,
> might be why spawnOn seems to "not work".
>
> Maybe I should just use manageSpawn to have all Nemo windows end up on
> desktop 7.
>
> I guess I have rubber ducked myself into the answer, but any comments
> are welcome regardless.
>
>   Best wishes,
>
>     Adam
>
> --
> "Please don't "meh" the panopticon. You are                  Adam Sjøgren
>  not making things better by doing that."                asjo at koldfront.dk
>
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From ruben.astud at gmail.com  Sat Nov 23 04:43:36 2019
From: ruben.astud at gmail.com (Ruben Astudillo)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 01:43:36 -0300
Subject: [xmonad] =?utf-8?q?Universal_argument_a_l=C3=A1_Emacs_for_Xmonad?=
Message-ID: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>

Dear all

On Emacs you can pass certain functions an interactive argument via the
C-u chord. For example you can press C-u 5 C-n to move 5 lines down the
buffer. Sometimes I've wanted this functionality on XMonad, for example
to be able to do stuff like `C-u 3 modm-m` to move to the third window
counted from the main window if it exists. I wonder if somebody know if
that's implemented as a module.

-- 
-- Ruben
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From allbery.b at gmail.com  Sat Nov 23 12:53:33 2019
From: allbery.b at gmail.com (Brandon Allbery)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 07:53:33 -0500
Subject: [xmonad]
	=?utf-8?q?Universal_argument_a_l=C3=A1_Emacs_for_Xmonad?=
In-Reply-To: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>
References: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKFCL4UOKJcNdsjXGCLYriKaCkqCAdb_3faSwJ+8reXS3mTKpg@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know of one, but see no reason the machinery in (say)
X.A.CycleWindows couldn't be extended to do so. It'd be easier if held to
single digits, though.

General numeric argument as in emacs is harder, since the only automatic
parameter to commands is the focused window and even that is only for mouse
actions; there's nowhere to stick it except ExtensibleState for other
commands. Hypothetically a wrapper could repeat a command based on said
state, but that's not necessarily how you want to handle the parameter in
all cases (consider the question of whether the repeats start from the
original state or the final one, when the command changes e.g. focused
window; and worse when the focused window change happens only later such
that you can't really do something based on it).

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:43 PM Ruben Astudillo <ruben.astud at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all
>
> On Emacs you can pass certain functions an interactive argument via the
> C-u chord. For example you can press C-u 5 C-n to move 5 lines down the
> buffer. Sometimes I've wanted this functionality on XMonad, for example
> to be able to do stuff like `C-u 3 modm-m` to move to the third window
> counted from the main window if it exists. I wonder if somebody know if
> that's implemented as a module.
>
> --
> -- Ruben
> -- PGP: 4EE9 28F7 932E F4AD
>
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From fercerpav at gmail.com  Sat Nov 23 13:18:52 2019
From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:18:52 +0300
Subject: [xmonad]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?Universal_argument_a_l=E1_Emacs_for_Xmona?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?d?=
In-Reply-To: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>
References: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20191123131851.GY11070@home.paul.comp>

Hey Ruben,

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 01:43:36AM -0300, Ruben Astudillo wrote:
> C-u chord. For example you can press C-u 5 C-n to move 5 lines down the

Is there any reason you're using C-u 5 and not M-5 here?

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mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com

From allbery.b at gmail.com  Sat Nov 23 15:09:17 2019
From: allbery.b at gmail.com (Brandon Allbery)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:09:17 -0500
Subject: [xmonad]
	=?utf-8?q?Universal_argument_a_l=C3=A1_Emacs_for_Xmonad?=
In-Reply-To: <20191123131851.GY11070@home.paul.comp>
References: <7e1c819e-ff9a-e32b-2466-f0d5a352a23b@gmail.com>
 <20191123131851.GY11070@home.paul.comp>
Message-ID: <CAKFCL4UEQ8g1==+qseZ0nfuSvEp00b29LbDfApwhhB1xb1PfGw@mail.gmail.com>

That's a good point too: it'd have to be M-C-u or have some starter
sequence like X.A.CycleWindows (M-Tab), or other programs would lose use of
C-u.

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 8:19 AM Paul Fertser <fercerpav at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Ruben,
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 01:43:36AM -0300, Ruben Astudillo wrote:
> > C-u chord. For example you can press C-u 5 C-n to move 5 lines down the
>
> Is there any reason you're using C-u 5 and not M-5 here?
>
> --
> Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software!
> mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com
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