[xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and better

Carsten Mattner carstenmattner at gmail.com
Wed Nov 7 19:15:56 CET 2012

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Carsten Mattner
<carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Brian McKenna <brian at brianmckenna.org> wrote:
>> As the author of osxmonad, I'm really happy with this initiative. I'm
>> not so much of a GitHub person as a Bitbucket person but that's beside
>> the point.
>> A central place for all of XMonad, osxmonad, Contrib, extras and the
>> website to live would be awesome. From what I can tell, GitHub is
>> being used as a code hosting tool - not a brainwashing clinic.
> xmonad used darcs and therefore http://hub.darcs.net would

that should be "uses"

> be a better fit. Joachim's patch tracker works and darcs works.
> I think we only need more reviewers and contributors and a
> more active committer to the canonical darcs repository.
> I don't mind and do use hg or git but let's not use the slow
> release problem as a reason to change the vcs system.
>> On 7 November 2012 10:52, Alfredo Di Napoli <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Tim for winding-back the whole thread history. I'm not a Github
>>> evangelist and I don't like the fold this thread is taking.
>>> I have not prejudices and I'm not get payed from Github for opening repos. I
>>> just thought if is during this time frame the most used social coding app to
>>> get things done, and considered that the existing fork of the Copenaghen
>>> guys, as well as osxmonad are STILL on Github, for me is the most reasonable
>>> choice. Stop!
>>> As regards the website writing thing, again, I don't want to pass the idea
>>> I'm the leader of something. I've just kickstarted the whole thing like a
>>> community thing! Please get involved!
>>> You don't like the idea of a new website? Fine! I'll stick with anything the
>>> community wants :)
>>> I just thought that if we have a new website we also have an alternative, as
>>> who knows we like the new website more the the old? :)
>>> To sum up, I think that Tim has exactly made my point, so the rest it's up
>>> to you. If you like the idea, please chime in.
>>> Otherwise maybe we'll continue with our "fork" to see where it brings us,
>>> and the xmonad official repo will continue to be in darcs, exactly as is it
>>> now.
>>> Have a nice day!
>>> A.
>>> On 7 November 2012 18:35, <timothyhobbs at seznam.cz> wrote:
>>>> Read back in this thread.  There was no sugestion that someone doesn't
>>>> exist.  Alfredo asked if the project was maintained after discovering that
>>>> there were not many recent commits to the darcs repo and patches for bugs
>>>> which had yet to be merged.  Another user chimed in that they too would like
>>>> those patches merged into master and that the lack of a maintainer was what
>>>> was holding things back.  That second user said that they were maintaining
>>>> their fixed repo on github.  Alfredo kindly volunteered to maintain the
>>>> project, and suggested bringing the project onto github.  No assumption was
>>>> ever made by anyone.  Except perhaps Alfredo's assumption that the website
>>>> needed a re-write as well :P
>>>> Tim
>>>> ---------- Původní zpráva ----------
>>>> Od: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
>>>> Datum: 7. 11. 2012
>>>> Předmět: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and
>>>> better
>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Joachim Breitner
>>>> <mail at joachim-breitner.de> wrote:
>>>> But what I read out of Brandon’s mails is: It is not a different
>>>> infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
>>>> maintenance and development. I’ve often seen people get excited about
>>>> It's part that (and how much activity do you think a Haskell-based project
>>>> gets?  if I applied the Githubbers; Witnesses model to *that* I get a
>>>> rewrite into PHP!) and part that I detest Github evangelists.
>>>> It really is The One True Church behavior.  We don't exist, have no
>>>> organization, etc. because we had the presumption to not use The Holy
>>>> Github?  This is the message of Github evangelists, repeatedly, on multiple
>>>> projects.
>>>> NO.
>>>> --
>>>> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine
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