[web-devel] On moving Yesod-specific discussion to a separate list

Michael Snoyman michael at snoyman.com
Mon Jun 27 10:21:22 CEST 2011

Let's bring a little historical context to the issue: before Yesod
starting using the web-devel list, there was virtually no activity on
it.[1] I remember receiving a few very specific emails about where to
direct web development questions, and that's the point at which I
decided to use web-devel as the official Yesod mailing list, to make
sure that such questions wouldn't fall on deaf ears. And I think it's

I'm opposed to splitting off the Yesod discussions to a separate list
for multiple reasons:

* It's an inconvenience to need to set up a new list and get everyone
to sign up on a different one.
* It's very difficult to know which list should receive a discussion.
For example
    * Hamlet is not Yesod-specific, but is mostly used in Yesod. If
someone asks a question about Hamlet, involving some Yesod code...
where does it go?
    * Does WAI need to be spun off into Yesod discussions? Currently,
it's only used by Yesod, but Happstack is planning on moving over to
it soon.
* I would actually prefer pulling in the Snap and Happstack mailing
lists to web-devel: I think there is a lot of room for better
discussions if we're all talking together by default. I'm already
subscribed to both mailing lists, and I don't think it will be a
problem to include that traffic here.

tl;dr: I think that it's a very fine line between framework-specific
and framework-related, and we should stop making such distinctions.


[1] http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/web-devel/2009/date.html

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jasper Van der Jeugt <m at jaspervdj.be> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I was wondering if it would be possible to direct Yesod-specific discussion
> to a separate mailing list. I do not have any disrespect towards Yesod, the
> main problem is that one can only read some finite number of mailing lists
> before being overwhelmed.
> A certain portion of Yesod-related mails certainly belong on the web-devel
> list. I'm thinking of e.g. RFC's, announcements, libraries. These are all
> mails which are of interest to the webdev community as a whole.
> However, there's a difference between Yesod-related and Yesod specific.
> Personally, I am not interested in "How to do X in Yesod" mails, because I
> don't know much about Yesod, and sometimes it's hard to manually "filter"
> this mailing list before reading it.
> I think it would benefit the two types of readers if we could move
> Yesod-specific discussion to a separate mailing list.
> Cheers,
> Jasper
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