[web-devel] [hamlet] implicit spaces with newlines?
Anton Cheshkov
acheshkov at gmail.com
Fri May 20 15:30:42 CEST 2011
Is it possible to have multiline $with construction ? Sometimes i have many
variables and very long line . Looks not pretty
for example
*$with a <- func1 val, b <- func2 val, c <- func3 val*
* d <- func4 val*
* <p>{a}*
*.....*
Thanks.
2011/5/20 Greg Weber <greg at gregweber.info>
> # render this:
> <p>You are logged in as <i>Michael Snoyman</i>, <a
> href="/logout">logout</a>.</p>
> <p>Multi
> line
> paragraph.
> </p>
>
>
> # current - explicit
> <p>You are logged in as #
> <i>Michael Snoyman
> , #
> <a href="/logout">logout
> .
> <p>Multi
> \ line
> \ paragraph.
>
> # alternative #! - implicitly add space, explicitly remove on the next line
> <p>You are logged in as
> <i>Michael Snoyman
> ,
> <a href="/logout">logout
> !.
> <p>Multi
> line
> paragraph.
>
>
> # alternative #2 - implicitly add space, explicitly remove on the current
> line
> <p>You are logged in as
> <i>Michael Snoyman
> ,
> <a href="/logout">logout#
> .
> <p>Multi
> line
> paragraph.
>
>
> # alternative #3 - implicitly add space when there is a new line before tag
> contents
> # seems bad, just throwing it out there :)
> <p>
> You are logged in as
> <i>Michael Snoyman
> ,
>
> <a href="/logout">logout
> .
> <p>
> Multi
> line
>
> paragraph.
>
>
> # alternative #4 - implicitly add space. remove space with 'whitespace
> alligators'
> # somewhat similar to:
> http://haml-lang.com/docs/yardoc/file.HAML_REFERENCE.html#whitespace_removal__and_
> # > chomps white space *after* the tag
> # < chomps white space *within* the tag
> # would need more examples to see if this plays out well
> <p>You are logged in as
> <i>Michael Snoyman
> ,
> <a href="/logout">logout>
> .
> <p>Multi
> line
> paragraph.
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Michael Snoyman <michael at snoyman.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Patrick Palka <patrick at parcs.ath.cx>
>> wrote:
>> > I find it a bit unintuitive that the hamlet code
>> >
>> > <p>hello
>> > <strong>there
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > <p>
>> > hello
>> > <strong>there
>> >
>> > generates the html
>> >
>> > <p>hello<strong>there</strong></p>
>> >
>> > I expected there to be a space between "hello" and "there" similar to
>> what
>> > the html specifications dictate. Is this behavior intentional or an
>> > oversight? If it's the former, then what is the recommended way to
>> simulate
>> > my expected behavior? Appending a space to the end of a line is
>> > mentally ugly and syntactically obscure.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "what the html specifications dictate."
>> HTML is whitespace-sensitive, meaning that:
>>
>> <i>foo</i> <b>bar</b>
>>
>> and
>>
>> <i>foo</i><b>bar</b>
>>
>> Are different. Now, in all likelihood in the above example, you will
>> want to have the whitespace surrounding tags. But consider the
>> following HTML:
>>
>> <p>You are logged in as <i>Michael Snoyman</i>, <a
>> href="/logout">logout</a>.</p><p>Another paragraph.</p>
>>
>> In the case of the <i> and <a> tags, we definitely do *not* want to
>> add whitespace after the tag (though we do want it before the tag). In
>> the case of <p>, we don't care one way or another, but adding the
>> whitespace everywhere will take up (a trivial amount of) extra
>> bandwidth. tl;dr: Sometimes you don't want the whitespace.
>>
>> So when designing Hamlet, I thought up a few possibilities:
>>
>> 1) What we do now: all whitespace must be explicit.
>> 2) Implicitly add whitespace before/after every tag.
>> 3) Do something "smart", adding whitespace where it's desired.
>>
>> (2) isn't really an option because it makes having a tag as the last
>> word in a sentence impossible. (3) gives me the creeps: I like smart
>> libraries, but I will *never* trust a library to do this kind of stuff
>> correctly all the time, even if I'm the one making up the rules for it
>> to follow! And I have no doubt that it will quickly devolve into 500
>> lines of hairy code to try and cover millions of corner cases. Oh, and
>> don't forget that there are other languages than English that might
>> approach it differently.
>>
>> I suppose another possibility is (2) along with some special way of
>> forcing the removal of extra whitespace, but this seemed much less
>> intuitive than the current approach.
>>
>> Anyway, that's the reasoning behind this stuff, if people have better
>> ideas, I'd like to hear them.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Best regards,
Cheshkov Anton
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