RFC: Add HasCallStack constraint to partial Data.List functions.
Carter Schonwald
carter.schonwald at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 15:51:12 UTC 2021
The sad part is seemingly it discards having an informative stack trace?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:16 AM Simon Peyton Jones via Libraries <
libraries at haskell.org> wrote:
> | If we indeed had something like
> |
> | head :: Partial => [a] -> a
> |
> | that would be both informative and fairly straightforward to explain to
> | students, for example. (Even if it is not clear to me that a type class
> | really is the right way to express partiality of functions: I always
> thought
> | information about partiality ought to be tied to the function arrow.)
>
> OK -- that sounds promising. It's what Richard suggested earlier, and
> sounds pretty good to me.
>
> Simon
>
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: Henrik.Nilsson at nottingham.ac.uk <Henrik.Nilsson at nottingham.ac.uk>
> | Sent: 09 June 2021 14:45
> | To: Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj at microsoft.com>; Henrik Nilsson
> | <Henrik.Nilsson at nottingham.ac.uk>; libraries at haskell.org
> | Subject: Re: RFC: Add HasCallStack constraint to partial Data.List
> | functions.
> |
> | > I'm not sure I really agree with that. There is a rich literature
> on >
> | effect systems, which decorate types with information about what >
> effects
> | the function has: exceptions, divergence, IO, and the like.
> | > So type like
> | > head :: Partial => [a] -> a
> | > where 'Partial =>' expresses the fact that calling this function >
> might
> | lead to a call of 'error' doesn't seem inherently something > that
> doesn't
> | belong in a type system.
> |
> | I, of course, agree that partiality is an effect. And I have no issues
> with
> | effects being reflected in the type system.
> | We do that all the time with e.g. monads.
> |
> | If we indeed had something like
> |
> | head :: Partial => [a] -> a
> |
> | that would be both informative and fairly straightforward to explain to
> | students, for example. (Even if it is not clear to me that a type class
> | really is the right way to express partiality of functions: I always
> thought
> | information about partiality ought to be tied to the function arrow.)
> |
> | My point is that "HasCallStack" strongly suggest a specific approach to
> | monitor the behaviour of a function in case it goes wrong.
> |
> | To me, at least, that is very operational.
> |
> | And I would struggle to explain
> |
> | head :: HasCallStack => [a] -> a
> |
> | beyond saying "it's just something that sometimes will help you with
> | debugging", and deeply hoping no clever student would ask about the
> lack of
> | similar annotations for other partial functions.
> |
> | Best,
> |
> | /Henrik
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