Correct behaviour of Bounded (Down a)

Krzysztof Gogolewski krz.gogolewski at gmail.com
Mon Sep 21 17:09:09 UTC 2020


I would consider removing Enum a => Enum (Down a), and fixing Bounded (Down a).

There isn't really a good equivalent of `enumFromThenTo` for Down and
performing negation in `toEnum` is not obvious to me.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:00 AM Kim-Ee Yeoh <ky3 at atamo.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 1:34 AM Asad Saeeduddin <masaeedu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> This is something I've never understood about `Enum`. How can a
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>> type be in bijection with the integers, but simultaneously have a
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> It's not a bijection with the integers.
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> In the method fromEnum :: a -> Int, the Int stands in for the disjoint sum of all possible types with an Enum instance.
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> And the way Int finesses that impersonation is by conflating together the parts of the disjoint sum.
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>> On 9/18/20 10:40 AM, Oleg Grenrus
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>> Is it (a bug)?
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>> What about [minBound .. maxBound]. If you change `Bounded`, you
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>> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.14.0.0/docs/GHC-Enum.html#t:Enum
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>> - The calls succ maxBound and pred minBound should result in a
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>> - enumFrom and enumFromThen should be defined with an implicit
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>> The `min` and `max` in `minBound/maxBound` are related to
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>> `succ`, `pred`, not to `compare`. If you argue against, then we
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>> should add `Ord` super-class to `Enum` (and `Bounded`).
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>> - Oleg
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>> On 18.9.2020 16.54, Carter Schonwald
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>> Def a bug! Plz at myself and the core libraries
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>> handle for code review plz.
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>> This sounds kinda related to an MR that has
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>> languished too long regarding the behavior of Down on Ord1,
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>> which I think is related??? (I tried to arbitrate / layout
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>> possible answers for the related issue in the associated mr,
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>> but none of the clc members have engaged in the design space
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>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at
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>> 7:44 AM David Beacham <mail at dbeacham.co.uk>
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>>> Hi all,
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>>> The current instance for `Bounded a => Bounded
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>>> (Down a)` derives the `minBound` and `maxBound`
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>>> exactly as they are for the underlying type `a` where
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>>> I think they should be flipped to respect the flipped
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>>> ordering of `Down a`?
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>>> I have a feeling this has been come up in some
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>>> other context/list before but I couldn't find a
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>>> reference to it when searching - so sorry if this is a
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>>> I've got a corresponding MR here: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/4081
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>>> Thanks, David.
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