Should primMonad class live in base or mtl?

George Wilson george at wils.online
Sat Jun 13 12:31:39 UTC 2020


Is it likely that other improvements to base would be enabled by this
move? If so, I think I'd be in favour of it, but I'm not sure it would
be worth the effort of the migration if there's only one or a couple.

On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 23:28, Andrew Martin <andrew.thaddeus at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Relatedly, in an MR I started years ago but never finished, I did some work on the event manager to cut out a bunch of unneeded allocations [1]. This included replacing cons lists in several places with SmallArray. I had to copy in a bunch of code from primitive to do this. The strongest argument I see for moving some of primitive's machinery into base (and then reexporting it in primitive) is that there might be other places in base that could benefit from it. But I'm not certain of what those other places are.
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> [1] https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/313
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> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:18 AM Carter Schonwald <carter.schonwald at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> This is something I’ve pondered on and off, And the classes PrimMonad and PrimMonadBase are super stable
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>> Argument in favor of base :
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>> there’s absolutely code in base, and packages like array, which would benefit from PrimMonad.   Plus it might allow more reuse / encourage more ST monad code in the wild? (I always feel like ST monad is underused. )
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>> Argument against base:
>> Then a lot of PrimMonad instances would need to live in transformers. And I’m not sure if maintainers over there would want that?
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>> Argument in favor of mtl: it’s where all the other transformer stack stuff gets defined. So all the upkeep for monad instances is already going on there regularly.
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>> Argument against mtl :  aside from concentrating the upkeep on transformer stack instances it seems like it wouldn’t enable new improvements to base.
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>> Another option is to have some sort of clone of the class in base , as long as it pays for itself in code reuse / simplification within base
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