Proposal: Bring the Contravariant class to base

Evan Laforge qdunkan at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 19:45:58 UTC 2017


Just for the curiosity of those following at home, are there any
articles out there discussing what contramap is good for?  Or maybe
just some simple examples?  I've only seen the
https://www.schoolofhaskell.com/school/to-infinity-and-beyond/pick-of-the-week/profunctors
one, and it basically repeats the instances built-in to the
contravariant package, which is compose things on the front of a
function.  And generalizations that to where the function takes
multiple args of the same type it can apply to all of them, which is
the 'compare' instance and ToJSONKeyFunction is also in that boat.  So
I guess it's a generalized way to adjust the input to a function-like
type?  Any other examples?

I use fmap all the time, but I've never used contramap, so I'm curious
if I'm missing something useful.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Siddhanathan Shanmugam
<siddhanathan+eml at gmail.com> wrote:
> I find Contravariant functors to be a nice abstraction. +1 on this.
>
> - Sid
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Aloïs Cochard <alois.cochard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Just to say I'm all for it as well, wanted that in base a few time in the
>> past...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 13 September 2017 at 15:13, Andrew Martin <andrew.thaddeus at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am +1 on this. Like others, I also only want
>>> Data.Functor.Contravariant, not the rest of the machinery in there. As a
>>> historical data point, I proposed this a year ago
>>> (http://haskell.1045720.n5.nabble.com/Move-Data-Functor-Contravariant-into-base-td5847730.html),
>>> but the we ended up on a tangent why a DeriveContravariant wouldn't really
>>> be possible, and the original proposal went nowhere. So, as a piece of
>>> advice, don't talk about DeriveContravariant ;)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Daniel Díaz Casanueva
>>> <dhelta.diaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear haskellers,
>>>>
>>>> I admit I might not have the strongest arguments here, but I thought
>>>> that I would share my opinion anyway, and maybe get other people's
>>>> perspectives. I would like to propose bringing the Contravariant class [1]
>>>> to base.
>>>>
>>>> I know, base keeps growing, and maybe there is no need for it to grow
>>>> further without a strong argument, but I do feel like Contravariant is a
>>>> simple, very basic class, that would receive better and greater use if
>>>> included in base. Contravariant is very similar to Functor (some people call
>>>> it CoFunctor), but in `contramap` (Contravariant's `fmap`) the "arrow" of
>>>> the applied function goes in the opposite direction. I think that
>>>> `contramap` can be useful for many types, just like `fmap` is for many
>>>> others, but we don't use it because it's not yet so popular, or maybe
>>>> because it requires the contravariant package to be included as dependency
>>>> (although personally I don't think that is a real problem). The
>>>> contravariant package itself provides a plentiful of instances, many of them
>>>> for types in base.
>>>>
>>>> In a real world scenario I had, it was very useful to add a
>>>> Contravariant instance to `Data.Aeson.ToJSONKeyFunction`, that perhaps is
>>>> not included in aeson because either it was not desired to add the
>>>> contravariant package as dependency, or simply because Contravariant is not
>>>> so well-known. Note that, however, `FromJSONKeyFunction` _is_ instance of
>>>> Functor. Even though both instances are equally natural and useful in this
>>>> context, only one of them was implemented. This probably would not have
>>>> happened if Contravariant was in base.
>>>>
>>>> So, in my opinion, for the sake of completeness, I think we should add
>>>> Contravariant to base, just as we have Functor. Note that my proposal does
>>>> not necessarily include the rest of types and functions defined in the
>>>> contravariant package.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Daniel Casanueva
>>>>
>>>> # References
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/contravariant-1.4/docs/Data-Functor-Contravariant.html#t:Contravariant
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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