Proposal: removeDirectoryRecursive should not follow symlinks
Gabriel Gonzalez
gabriel439 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 17:49:47 UTC 2015
Actually, I might retract my recommendation to provided it under a
different name. I'm neutral on this now and would consider it okay to
change in place.
My reasoning is that this is a bug fix, so we can reasonably expect
users to put lower bounds on software in response to bug fixes like we
do with other software.
On 1/7/15, 1:47 AM, Johan Tibell wrote:
>
> I don't think so but if we change the function signature or name as
> some suggested it all needs to be cpped still.
>
> On Jan 6, 2015 9:39 PM, "Erik Hesselink" <hesselink at gmail.com
> <mailto:hesselink at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Does cabal rely on this behavior?
>
> Erik
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Johan Tibell
> <johan.tibell at gmail.com <mailto:johan.tibell at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Who volunteers to fix the breakages in Cabal and add all the
> needed CPP?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:45 PM, David Feuer
> <david.feuer at gmail.com <mailto:david.feuer at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> This seems reasonable, but if we have a deprecation cycle, the
> old name
> >> should (temporarily) be a synonym for the new one, and the
> deprecation
> >> warning should indicate that code intended to work with older
> versions needs
> >> to be audited.
> >>
> >> On Jan 6, 2015 2:40 PM, "Gabriel Gonzalez"
> <gabriel439 at gmail.com <mailto:gabriel439 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think it's safer to remove the old function altogether
> (perhaps after
> >>> one deprecation cycle) and provide a new one under a different
> name, rather
> >>> than modify it in place.
> >>>
> >>> Modifying it in place risks the behavior that others mentioned
> where your
> >>> program is unsafe to compile against older library versions.
> Yes, the user
> >>> could explicitly enforce that by putting a lower bound on the
> library, but
> >>> most users won't even realize that they need to do that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/6/15, 11:37 AM, Edward Kmett wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm +1 for fixing this, in place, on the current function.
> >>>
> >>> The specification we have here is doing a very very bad thing
> and needs
> >>> to be fixed, not slavishly copied forward because someone
> sometime once made
> >>> a mistake.
> >>>
> >>> The current behavior grievously violates the expectations of
> anyone who
> >>> would be in a situation to go and reach for it and has any
> prior experience
> >>> with any other such tool.
> >>>
> >>> -Edward
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Malcolm Wallace
> <malcolm.wallace at me.com <mailto:malcolm.wallace at me.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:59, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > On 2015-01-06 14:57, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >>>> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Johan Tibell
> <johan.tibell at gmail.com <mailto:johan.tibell at gmail.com>>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> This is not a bugfix. A bug is failing to follow the
> functions
> >>>> >>> specification, which *does* include following symlinks.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It's a bug in the design, not the code.
> >>>>
> >>>> > Because *nobody* wants to follow symlinks when doing "rm
> -rf". Even if
> >>>> > they think they do, they *really* don't.
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree 100%. Even time I use this function, I worry briefly
> about
> >>>> whether it follows symlinks, then think to myself "no, no-one
> would be so
> >>>> stupid to implement that deliberately in a publically
> available API". So it
> >>>> was a real shock to discover in this thread that I was wrong, and
> >>>> furthermore that the function is documented as doing the
> wrong thing. We
> >>>> should fix both spec and implementation, as soon as possible.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Malcolm
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