Final bikeshedding call: Fixing Control.Exception.bracket
John Lato
jwlato at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 18:37:21 UTC 2014
Just for clarification, what's up for discussion at this point? Is
everyone at least convinced that the status quo is untenable, and we're
trying to achieve consensus (or at least a mandate) on a solution?
As for current solutions, I think #2 is best. Functions like bracket need
to "just work" in general.
On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 10:18:50 AM David Feuer <david.feuer at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like #2. Errors you can detect easily are much better than errors that
> silently mess things up.
> On Nov 11, 2014 1:10 PM, "Merijn Verstraaten" <merijn at inconsistent.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Ola!
>>
>> In September Eyal Lotem raised the issue of bracket's cleanup handler not
>> being uninterruptible [1]. This is a final bikeshedding email before I
>> submit a patch.
>>
>> The problem, summarised:
>> Blocking cleanup actions can be interrupted, causing cleanup not to
>> happen and potentially leaking resources.
>>
>> Main objection to making the cleanup handler uninterruptible:
>> Could cause deadlock if the code relies on async exceptions to interrupt
>> a blocked thread.
>>
>> I count only two objections in the previous thread, 1 on the grounds that
>> "deadlocks are NOT unlikely" and 1 that is conditioned on "I don't believe
>> this is a problem".
>>
>> The rest seems either +1, or at least agrees that the status quo is
>> *worse* than the proposed solution.
>>
>> My counter to these objections is:
>> 1) No one has yet shown me any code that relies on the cleanup handler
>> being interruptible
>>
>> 2) There are plenty of examples of current code being broken, for example
>> every single 'bracket' using file handles is broken due to handle
>> operations using a potentially blocking MVar operation internally,
>> potentially leaking file descriptors/handles.
>>
>> 3) Even GHC-HQ can't use bracket correctly (see Simon's emails)
>>
>> Potential solution #1:
>> Leave bracket as-is, add bracketUninterruptible with an uninterruptible
>> cleanup handler.
>>
>> Potential solution #2:
>> Change bracket to use uninterruptible cleanup handler, add
>> bracketInterruptible for interruptible cleanups.
>>
>> Trade-offs:
>> Solution 1 won't change the semantics of any existing code, however this
>> also means that any currently broken uses of bracket will remain broken,
>> possibly indefinitely.
>>
>> Solution 2 will change the semantics of bracket, which means any
>> currently broken uses of bracket will be fixed, at the cost of creating
>> potential deadlocks in code that relies on the interruptibility of cleanup.
>>
>> I will argue that solution #2 is preferable, since I have yet to see any
>> code that uses the interruptibility of the cleanup handler. Whereas there's
>> many broken assumption assuming the cleanup handler is not interruptible.
>>
>> Secondly, it is easier to detect deadlocks caused by this problem than it
>> is to detect resource leaks which only happen in unlucky timings of async
>> exceptions. Especially since any deadlock caused by the change can be fixed
>> by replacing bracket with bracketInterruptible.
>>
>> [1] -
>> https://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2014-September/023675.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Merijn
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