[Proposal] Renaming (:=:) to (==)

Edward Kmett ekmett at gmail.com
Sun Sep 29 15:36:26 UTC 2013


Hrmm.

There is another wrinkle to consider.

Soon there will likely be another type coming along for a representational
equality witness. So perhaps it would be best to use an = somewhere in the
name and ~ in the other? To indicate this one is real equality and the
other is only an equivalence?

-Edward


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Stijn van Drongelen <rhymoid at gmail.com>wrote:

> What about (~~)?
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Edward Kmett <ekmett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can appreciate the objections to (==) and I'm absolutely open to other
>> names.
>>
>> I just rather dislike (:=:).
>>
>> Lets throwing this open to bikeshedding. Alternatives?
>>
>> -Edward
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Roman Cheplyaka <roma at ro-che.info>wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Richard here — this overloading of == doesn't seem
>>> intuitive to me. Using it for type-level boolean equality would be much
>>> more natural.
>>>
>>> That said, :=: could probably benefit from the relaxed rules for type
>>> operators; I just don't think == is a good choice.
>>>
>>> Roman
>>>
>>> * Richard Eisenberg <eir at cis.upenn.edu> [2013-09-29 00:10:46-0400]
>>> > -1 from me.
>>> >
>>> > Shachaf stated my argument correctly -- I think that the (:=:)
>>> operator means something quite different from the term-level (==) operator,
>>> and the name should reflect this. I do like thinking about a better name,
>>> though, and I'm happy enough if I'm outvoted here.
>>> >
>>> > Richard
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Shachaf Ben-Kiki wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Edward Kmett <ekmett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> As part of the discussion about Typeable, GHC 7.8 is going to
>>> include a
>>> > >> Data.Type.Equality module that provides a polykinded type equality
>>> data
>>> > >> type.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I'd like to propose that we rename this type to (==) rather than
>>> the (:=:)
>>> > >> it was developed under.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> We are already using (+), (-), (*), etc. at the type level in
>>> type-nats, so
>>> > >> it would seem to fit the surrounding convention.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I've done the work of preparing a patch, visible here:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> https://github.com/ekmett/packages-base/commit/fb47f8368ad3d40fdd79bdeec334c0554fb17110
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thoughts?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Normally, I'd let this run the usual 2 week course, but we're
>>> getting down
>>> > >> to the wire for 7.8's release. Once 7.8 ships, we'd basically be
>>> stuck with
>>> > >> the current name forever.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Discussion Period: 1 week
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -Edward Kmett
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > +1. For what it's worth, I suggested that name before, and Richard
>>> > > Eisenberg suggested that == should be for type-level Boolean
>>> equality:
>>> > > <http://markmail.org/message/3yifytgt2k3cfwws>. I'm not convinced,
>>> > > though -- this seems fundamental enough to deserve the simplest name
>>> > > possible.
>>> > >
>>> > > (I'm using that link because the haskell.org mailing list archive
>>> > > seems to be gone... Hopefully that comes back, eventually.)
>>> > >
>>> > >    Shachaf
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