Burning bridges

[Edward Kmett]

This usecase is addressed by the fact that the haskell2010 and haskel98
packages would not be affected by this.

If you need a largely static subset of Haskell there it is.

-Edward


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic <
ivan.miljenovic at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 23 May 2013 11:06, Casey McCann <cam at uptoisomorphism.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
> > <ivan.miljenovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 23 May 2013 07:32, Malcolm Wallace <malcolm.wallace at me.com> wrote:
> >>> -20 for generalising the Prelude
> >>> +1 for removals from the Prelude
> >>> -1 for adding monomorphic stuff
> >>> +1000 for doing nothing
> >>>
> >>> You are all nuts. :-)
> >>
> >> I don't know if I'd go quite _that_ for as Malcolm for the weightings
> >> for the different proposals...
> >>
> >> But I was speaking with a few other tutors of an introductory
> >> CS/programming course that uses Haskell (note: it's teaching
> >> programming with Haskell, not teaching Haskell per se: for example,
> >> all pattern matchings must be done with case statements as the
> >> lecturer considers top-level pattern matching a Haskell-specific
> >> quirk) about these proposals...
> >
> > So in other words, your contention is that the design of the core
> > library of Haskell should be driven by the needs of an introductory
> > programming course, which is not even attempting to teach Haskell
> > specifically, aimed at students who can't even figure out how tab
> > characters work? That's marvelous.
>
> I think you missed my point... I'm not saying it's just because of the
> course I'm tutoring, but that I disagree with the contention of
> "people learning Haskell will pick this up relatively easier so we
> should just dismiss anything about not generalising because it will
> make it easier for new people".
>
> Also, not all people that learn Haskell are self-motivated in doing
> so, and thus won't take in the extra mental effort to understand how
> type-classes work right from the beginning.
>
> --
> Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
> Ivan.Miljenovic at gmail.com
> http://IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com
>
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