[Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Work on Video Games in Haskell

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So once the game is finished in Haskell, send it to India or China for a manual rewrite in C/C++/Objective C J

 

Or maybe this would be a nice research topic: how to generate C code that looks like it’s human written… 

 

Van: haskell-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:haskell-bounces at haskell.org] Namens Edward Kmett
Verzonden: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:53 PM
Aan: Ryan Trinkle
CC: iphone at haskell.org; haskell-cafe at haskell.org; haskell at haskell.org; reactive at haskell.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Work on Video Games in Haskell

 

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Ryan Trinkle <ryan.trinkle at ipwnstudios.com> wrote:

Hi guys,

 

I don't think this licensing issue will be a problem for us.  It's not clear to me that our game violates this new term, and we certainly don't violate any of the principles Steve Jobs used to justify it.  If Apple wants to reject our app, they already have a variety of excuses at their disposal, as they've demonstrated on many occasions.  Frankly, it'd be their loss; Android is now the fastest-growing smartphone market, and we'll be more than happy to focus on it (and other friendlier markets) if Apple's not interested in having our product on their platform.


Steve Jobs has been quite clear that apps written in other languages, even ones that are interpreted in, compiles down to or otherwise generate objective c source code, don't comply with the changes in section 3.3.1 of their license, so I'm not sure that you have much of a case.

“We’ve been there before, and intermediate layers between the platform and the developer ultimately produces sub-standard apps and hinders the progress of the platform.”

Read more: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-iphone-sdk-complaints-intermediate-layers-produce-sub-standard-apps/#ixzz0p3gfoNZI


Haskell definitely qualifies as an 'intermediate layer', just like MonoTouch, and just like the Flash-to-Objective-C compiler that provoked the original response from Apple.

http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/04/steve-jobs-response-a-brief-followup/

Heck, even libraries that may contain scripting and modeling utilities like Unity3d are in jeopardy, due to this cockamamie restriction, which threatens to send the art of level design and game programming for the iphone technologically clear back into the early 90s, though at least there they appear to be treading lightly, since Unity has been useful in providing the iphone with a lot of high end content.

http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/7408/is-unity3d-banned-by-new-apple-sdk-licence

But, there are other numerous discussions floating around in the blogosphere involving previously approved applications written in scheme (even compiled via objective c), c#, or other middleware languages having their applications removed from the app store. 

So, sadly, I think your chances of shipping your a title written in Haskell on the iPhone are shot to hell.

-Edward Kmett

 

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