[Haskell] Re: on starting Haskell-Edu, a new education-related Haskell-related mailing list

Peter Verswyvelen bf3 at telenet.be
Mon Jul 14 07:24:36 EDT 2008


Well, if somebody can't spell "beginners" correctly, I highly doubt they
will get "alpha" right... Certainly if they drive an Alfa Romeo car ;)

Even so, another alternative would just be "begin at haskell.com"...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: haskell-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:haskell-bounces at haskell.org]
> On Behalf Of Benjamin L.Russell
> Sent: maandag 14 juli 2008 13:18
> To: haskell at haskell.org
> Subject: [Haskell] Re: on starting Haskell-Edu, a new education-related
> Haskell-related mailing list
> 
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:04:04 +0100, Simon Marlow <marlowsd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Best suggestions I've seen so far:
> >
> >   beginners at haskell.org (I like the plural better too, thanks Dan)
> >   help at haskell.org
> >   questions at haskell.org
> >
> >let me know your preference (privately, unless you have anything else
> to
> >add to the discussion).
> 
> Thank you, Simon.
> 
> Personally, I think that there are problems with all three names,
> though:
> 
> beginners at haskell.org:  Although this name definitely captures the
> flavor of the mailing list and also conveys a sense of community (with
> the addition of the 's,' thanks to Dan Licata), the double-n is easy
> to mistake for beginners, and a new user would probably have
> difficulty remembering whether the name was "beginner" or "beginners"
> if a sudden question arose after six months of absence from the
> mailing list.
> 
> help at haskell.org:  As Angelos Sphyris pointed out in a private e-mail
> message (which I later forwarded to this mailing list), this seems to
> suggest a general help archive/source complete with manuals, faqs,
> examples etc.  More importantly, it does not suggest a sense of
> community.
> 
> questions at haskell.org:  This name limits the scope of the list to
> questions, as opposed to general beginner topics, and does not seem
> appropriate for non-question beginner-related issues.  Also, this name
> does not convey a sense of community.
> 
> Since this new list is about beginner issues for Haskell, a functional
> programming language, ideally, the name should simultaneously be
> short, easy to remember, academic, suggest general beginner issues,
> and, if possible, suggest a sense of community.  The best alternatives
> that I have come up with are the following:
> 
> alpha at haskell.org:  This name denotes a Greek letter used in
> mathematics, is associated with a beginning, is academic, but does not
> really suggest a sense of community.
> 
> lambda-alpha at haskell.org:  This name denotes two Greek letters used in
> mathematics, ordered so as to denote a beginning of the
> lambda-calculus, and is academic, but does not really suggest a sense
> of community.
> 
> haskell-alpha at haskell.org:  This name denotes a Greek letter used in
> mathematics, is associated with a beginning, is academic, and suggests
> a sense of community.
> 
> haskell-lambda-alpha at haskell.org:  This name is simply too long to
> remember.
> 
> In sum, I suggest haskell-alpha at haskell.org.  Any better alternatives?
> 
> -- Benjamin L. Russell
> 
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