[Haskell] on starting Haskell-Edu,
a new education-related Haskell-related mailing list
marlowsd at gmail.com
Fri Jul 4 05:40:17 EDT 2008
Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote:
> Benjamin L. Russell:
>> I am interested in starting a new mailing list on Haskell.org, aimed
>> mainly at liberal arts teachers and elementary-level learners of
>> Haskell, called "Haskell-Edu: The Haskell Educational Mailing List."
>> This new mailing list would be guided by the principle that Haskell is
>> useful not just in research, but also in teaching programming as part
>> of a liberal arts education, on a par with Scheme. When I suggested
>> the idea of this mailing list to Simon Marlow, the Haskell.org mailing
>> list administrator, he suggested that I post this idea on The Haskell
>> Mailing List, so I am posting it here to ask for feedback.
>> The main purposes of this new (proposed) mailing list would be as
>> 1) To provide a primarily non-research-oriented discussion forum to
>> serve the needs of users wishing to focus on the uses of Haskell in
>> education, such as in high school and in introductory computer science
>> college courses, as opposed to in research.
>> 2) To provide a primarily non-research-oriented discussion forum to
>> serve the needs of non-computer-science students of Haskell who wish
>> to focus on Haskell as a language for learning programming as part of
>> a well-rounded a liberal arts education, as opposed to an
>> engineering/mathematics/science-oriented education.
> The Haskell community seems to be growing quickly and clearly becomes
> more diverse. So, a mailing list aimed at users with less experience
> and/or a non-computing, non-math background makes sense to me.
> Whether you will be able to gather a critical mass of knowledgeable
> people who are happy to answer questions on the list is hard to answer
> without trying your idea. But mailing lists are cheap. So, I'd say,
> let's give it a try and see whether it works. In any case, it'd be
> important to describe the purpose of the list at
> properly to make clear which discussions should go to which list.
My main concern here is that the remit for the new list is not clear
enough. I can see a potential need for two lists:
* a list for discussion related to teaching Haskell;
* a list devoted to those learning Haskell, with a less research-
oriented feel than haskell-cafe.
it's not obvious to me that both of those needs should be served by a
single list. I believe it's important that the mailing lists served by
haskell.org should have clear non-overlapping topics.
So I suggest that we add haskell-edu for the purposes of discussing the use
and teaching of Haskell in education. For the second point above, I'd be
inclined not to add a new list, but I don't feel that strongly - if there's
a concensus in favour of adding haskell-beginners (for example), that would
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