Combining distinct-thread state monads?

Dr Mark H Phillips mark at austrics.com.au
Tue Jan 6 18:19:05 EST 2004


Hi,

I am still learning about monads.  I have a problem
in mind and am wondering whether state monads are
able to solve it.  The difficulty is that it would
necessitate the interaction of two state threads
and I'm not sure whether Haskell state monads
allow this.  Let me explain what I'm getting at.

Consider two state threads.  The first has each state 
being a non-negative int, thought of as a string of 
binary digits.  The second thread has each state 
being a bool.

Now I want to have a state monad which modifies
both threads as follows.  Consider input states i (the
int thought of as binary string) and b (the bool),
and output states i' and b'.  

  b' = not (b && (i `mod` 2))
  i' = i `div` 2

As you can see, both of these should be able to do
update-in-place provided the above order is adhered to.
We could achieve this using state monads where state
is an (Int, Bool) pair.  We would have one monad
which did the first line, leaving i unchanged and
a second monad which did the second line, leaving
b' unchanged.

But... what if before this interaction, the int
thread and the bool thread were separate monads
doing their own thing, and we just wanted to
combine these threads briefly (using the above
interaction) before letting the threads do their 
own thing again?  Is this possible?

Also, suppose we have previously defined an int thread
monad which takes i, returns a value of i `mod` 2,
and changes the state to i' = i `div` 2.  Suppose
also we have previously defined a bool thread 
monad which takes b, returns a nothing value, and
changes the state to b' = not b.  Can we use
these two monads (each acting on different
threads), to form a combined-interaction monad
that does (same as before):

  b' = not (b && (i `mod` 2))
  i' = i `div` 2

I hope this is possible.  It would facilitate
both code reuse and readability.  However I 
fear that it is not, requiring one to instead 
explicitly rewrite the two separate thread monads 
into (Int, Bool) pair acting ones.

Cheers,

Mark.




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