newbie syntax question

Memovich, Gary GARY.MEMOVICH@kla-tencor.com
Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:21:35 -0700


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Actually, all functions in Haskell take only one argument, although the
people writing the program usually don't think of it this way.
 
scale could alternatively have been defined with type
 
    scale :: (Picture, Int) -> Picture
 
which looks more like what we would expect in a function of two arguments.
But even here there is actually only a single argument, which happens to be
a pair of values.
 
The given declaration
 
    scale :: Picture -> Int -> Picture
 
is written in 'curried' form.  This means that scale is a function of one
argument, 'Picture', and that its return value is a new function with type
Int -> Picture.  That new function can immediately be applied to an int
value so that it appears as if you called scale with two values instead of
just one.
 
instead of writing
 
    scale pic 3
 
for example, you could have written
 
    (scale pic) 3
 
or even
 
    let x = scale pic in x 3
 
Which might make it a little easier to see what is actually happening.
 
Hope this helps,
-- Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Cagdas Ozgenc [mailto:co19@cornell.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:07 PM
To: haskell@haskell.org
Subject: newbie syntax question


Hi,
 
I am extremely new to Haskell. This will be my first question, so go easy. I
have just read Chapter 1 on Simon Thompson's book.
 
for example a function declaration is given as follows
 
scale : : Picture -> Int -> Picture
 
 
If the first two types are input variables why does the syntax require me to
use arrows twice? I mean isn't the following syntax more readable
(hypothetically)?
 
scale : : Picture , Int -> Picture
 
 
Is there a specific reason not to be able to distinguish the input
parameters from the output parameter?
 
Thanks
 


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<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Actually, all functions in Haskell take only one argument, although the 
people writing the program usually don't think of it this 
way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>scale 
could alternatively have been defined with type</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>scale :: (Picture, Int) -&gt; Picture</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>which 
looks more like what we would expect in a function of two arguments.&nbsp; But 
even here there is actually only a single argument, which happens to be a pair 
of values.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The 
given declaration</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>scale :: Picture -&gt; Int -&gt; 
Picture</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>is 
written in 'curried' form.&nbsp; This means that scale is a function of 
one&nbsp;argument, 'Picture', and that its return value is a new function with 
type Int -&gt; Picture.&nbsp; That new function can immediately be applied to an 
int value so that it appears as if you called scale with two values instead of 
just one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>instead of writing</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>scale pic 3</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>for 
example, you could have written</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>(scale pic) 3</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>or 
even</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>let x = scale pic in x 3</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Which 
might make it a little easier to see what is actually 
happening.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hope 
this helps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734081220-24072001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-- 
Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cagdas Ozgenc 
  [mailto:co19@cornell.edu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:07 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> haskell@haskell.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> newbie syntax 
  question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am extremely new to Haskell. This will be my 
  first question, so go easy. I have just read Chapter 1 on Simon Thompson's 
  book.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for example a function declaration is given as 
  follows</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>scale : : Picture -&gt; Int -&gt; 
  Picture</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the first two types are input variables why 
  does the syntax require me to use arrows twice? I mean isn't the following 
  syntax more readable (hypothetically)?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>scale : : Picture , Int -&gt; 
Picture</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there a specific reason not to be able to 
  distinguish the input parameters from the output parameter?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
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