Helium II

[Carter Schonwald]

i'm slowly prepping some stuff for ghc and the committee, though i can't
say about the general action. I do think some stuff i've got planned should
make its way in, i cant speak for other folks etc etc

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:54 AM Anthony Clayden <
anthony_clayden at clear.net.nz> wrote:

> On *Thu Nov 29 15:00:19 UTC 2018, Doug McIlroy wrote:*
>
> > >* Frankly after you've filtered out all that, I'd be astonished if you**
> have anything left. It seems to be usual practice on Hackage to switch**
> on a swag of LANGUAGE pragmas even if this module isn't using them.*
>
> >>* (MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts in particular.)*
>
> > A depressing remark, which comes close to saying
> > there is no true Haskell.
>
> ? There wasn't a true Haskell in 1998. Already Hugs (in HugsMode) and GHC (with glasgow-extns) had MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts, FunDeps, UndecidableInstances. Overlapping instances was optional extra.
>
> > It's one reason I hang mostly with Hugs.
>
> Interesting. Does that mean Hugs98? How on earth do you manage without at least some of the above?
>
> > GHC pretty well repudiates Haskell 2010.
>
> So does Hugs (in HugsMode): a large proportion of the extra features in H2010 were suggested by the Hugs teams; and Hugs 2006 was already far advanced beyond it.
>
>
> > May Haskell 2020 receive more respect!
>
> I think you'll need to adjust your expectations: I doubt H2020 will happen. There was a glimmer of activity last month, but this list has resumed its moribund state. So I think we can put last month down to dead cat bounce. If H2020 does happen, HugsMode will still be well ahead of whatever gets added.
>
>
> AntC
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