Chairship / responsibility
Nicolas Wu
nicolas.wu at gmail.com
Sun May 1 05:53:52 UTC 2016
Having Herbert as chair was also my understanding, and I'm very happy
for him to chair these discussions.
Nick
On 30 April 2016 at 09:38, Andres Löh <andres.loeh at googlemail.com> wrote:
> It was my understanding that Herbert would be the chair when I asked
> to be on the committee, and the fact that this question was already
> answer was a factor in my decision to try to help. Being the committee
> chair is less a position of power, and more a position of
> responsibility. I think we can be very happy to have someone who is
> willing to do the job, and I absolutely trust hvr to be up to the
> task.
>
> If needed, we can revisit the question over time when we have a better
> idea how our usual workflow and processes look like, but I don't think
> we need to or should have this discussion now.
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel
> <hvriedel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello *,
>>
>> On 2016-04-29 at 15:17:43 +0200, Richard Eisenberg wrote:
>>> Is there a chair of this committee? Herbert has been acting as such
>>> (thank you!) but doesn't list himself as the chair in the initial
>>> announcement.
>>>
>>> I am **in no way** trying to change any status quo and
>>> am **not** interested in being chair at the moment, but I just wanted
>>> to clarify.
>>
>> Fwiw, I mentioned in the preceding CfN
>> (https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-prime/2015-September/003936.html)
>> that
>>
>> | In consultation with the current members of the Haskell Prime
>> | committee (and Simon PJ), I have volunteered as chair to "reboot" the
>> | process and get things rolling again.
>>
>> But you're right I failed to repeat this in the actual announcement.
>>
>> However, I don't want to impose myself on the committee as chair. So if
>> anyone else feels motivated enough to pick up the role as chair with the
>> agreement of the committee I'll happily hand over the chair position!
>> :-)
>>
>> Moreover, this doesn't need to be a static configuration: We could also
>> rotate the chair position (and other duties) over the lifetime of the
>> Haskell 2020 committee. There just needs to be one designated chair at
>> any time to keep things moving.
>>
>>> The specific reason I ask is that Takenobu Tani recently asked about
>>> `pseq`. I have no intelligent response to offer, but would want to
>>> make sure that someone does offer a response. If there is a chair,
>>> that person is de facto responsible that we, as a committee,
>>> communicate well, both internally and externally.
>>
>> You're definitely right. And IMO the chair only needs to step in if
>> nobody else feels compelled to respond within a reasonable time, e.g. a
>> few days -- after all, we all have other duties besides the prime
>> committee :-)
>>
>> -- hvr
>>
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