From mike at barrucadu.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 18:08:06 2016
From: mike at barrucadu.co.uk (Michael Walker)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:08:06 +0100
Subject: Anything happening?
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Hello,

I haven't seen anything on this mailing list for a little while, is
anything going on? Has the process by which proposals will be
submitted and worked out been solidified yet?

-- 
Michael Walker (http://www.barrucadu.co.uk)

From jmct at jmct.cc  Tue Jul 19 19:13:54 2016
From: jmct at jmct.cc (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Manuel_Calder=C3=B3n_Trilla?=)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:13:54 -0400
Subject: Anything happening?
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Hello Michael,

We were waiting on the GHC team to settle on a proposal process for
their stuff so that we could aim to use a similar process and avoid
fragmentation.

For those who don't know, GHC HQ just announced their new process
here: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/blog/rethinking-proposals and
are finalising it on the github repo here:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals

So pretty soon now we should probably discuss whether we are going to
use the same process, alter their process, or use a different process
altogether. My vote would be to mirror their process as much as
possible.

Cheers,

José


On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Michael Walker <mike at barrucadu.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I haven't seen anything on this mailing list for a little while, is
> anything going on? Has the process by which proposals will be
> submitted and worked out been solidified yet?
>
> --
> Michael Walker (http://www.barrucadu.co.uk)
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From simonpj at microsoft.com  Tue Jul 19 21:00:23 2016
From: simonpj at microsoft.com (Simon Peyton Jones)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:00:23 +0000
Subject: Anything happening?
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And for our (GHC) part we are moving slowly, partly because it's the summer; partly because no technology seems really ideal; and also because we've had feedback from only a handful of people, and we're a bit reluctant to commit to something new with so little direct endorsement.

Simon

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Sent: 19 July 2016 20:14
To: Michael Walker <mike at barrucadu.co.uk>
Cc: Haskell Prime <haskell-prime at haskell.org>
Subject: Re: Anything happening?

Hello Michael,

We were waiting on the GHC team to settle on a proposal process for their stuff so that we could aim to use a similar process and avoid fragmentation.

For those who don't know, GHC HQ just announced their new process
here: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/blog/rethinking-proposals and are finalising it on the github repo here:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals

So pretty soon now we should probably discuss whether we are going to use the same process, alter their process, or use a different process altogether. My vote would be to mirror their process as much as possible.

Cheers,

José


On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Michael Walker <mike at barrucadu.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I haven't seen anything on this mailing list for a little while, is 
> anything going on? Has the process by which proposals will be 
> submitted and worked out been solidified yet?
>
> --
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From dluposchainsky at googlemail.com  Wed Jul 20 15:20:50 2016
From: dluposchainsky at googlemail.com (David Luposchainsky)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:20:50 +0200
Subject: Anything happening?
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On 19.07.2016 20:08, Michael Walker wrote:
> I haven't seen anything on this mailing list for a little while, is
> anything going on? Has the process by which proposals will be
> submitted and worked out been solidified yet?

I’m planning to spend some time at ZuriHac this weekend thinking about Haskell’,
maybe getting the Report to build, making a few experimental changes. Oh, and
talking to people mostly, so if you’re around... :-)

David/quchen

From iavor.diatchki at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 16:33:57 2016
From: iavor.diatchki at gmail.com (Iavor Diatchki)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:33:57 -0700
Subject: Anything happening?
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Having seen the new GHC process, I am not quite sure how to relate it to
Haskell'. Would someone who's thought more about this care to clarify the
mapping between the different "roles", and concretely which parts are we
thinking of doing for Haskell'?

-Iavor
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From carter.schonwald at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 02:16:58 2016
From: carter.schonwald at gmail.com (Carter Schonwald)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:16:58 -0400
Subject: Anything happening?
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I kinda agree, the workflow they're articulating doesn't quite line up with
what we may do.

I can't speak for other folks, but I've been privately putting together /
chewing on a few proposals  I want to put forward. But I also want to make
sure I adhere to a high bar/ think things through in what I put forward.

I do think a number of prime committee members are planning to meet during
Icfp.  I hope to be amongst them :).

Also have been busy with work :)

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016, Iavor Diatchki <iavor.diatchki at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Having seen the new GHC process, I am not quite sure how to relate it to
> Haskell'. Would someone who's thought more about this care to clarify the
> mapping between the different "roles", and concretely which parts are we
> thinking of doing for Haskell'?
>
> -Iavor
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From ekmett at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 02:50:23 2016
From: ekmett at gmail.com (Edward Kmett)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:50:23 +0200
Subject: Anything happening?
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I'll be at Zurihac as well should you need input from the CLC side.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 5:20 PM, David Luposchainsky via Haskell-prime <haskell-prime at haskell.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 19.07.2016 20:08, Michael Walker wrote:
>> I haven't seen anything on this mailing list for a little while, is
>> anything going on? Has the process by which proposals will be
>> submitted and worked out been solidified yet?
> 
> I’m planning to spend some time at ZuriHac this weekend thinking about Haskell’,
> maybe getting the Report to build, making a few experimental changes. Oh, and
> talking to people mostly, so if you’re around... :-)
> 
> David/quchen
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