[Haskell-cafe] Monad of no `return` Proposal (MRP): Moving `return` out of `Monad`

[Augustsson, Lennart]

I'd say, of course, libraries covered by the Haskell report are not in the remit of the libraries committee.

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From: Libraries [mailto:libraries-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of Henrik Nilsson
Sent: 21 October 2015 09:25
To: Geoffrey Mainland; Bryan O'Sullivan; Gershom B
Cc: Henrik.Nilsson at nottingham.ac.uk; haskell-prime at haskell.org List; Graham Hutton; Haskell Libraries; haskell cafe
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Monad of no `return` Proposal (MRP): Moving `return` out of `Monad`

Hi all,

Geoffrey Mainland wrote;

 > What worries me most is that we have started to see very valuable  > members of our community publicly state that they are reducing their  > community involvement.

That worries me too. A lot. To quote myself from an earlier e-mail in this thread:

 > Therefore, please let us defer further discussion and  > ultimate decision on MRP to the resurrected  > HaskellPrime committee, which is where it properly  > belongs. Otherwise, the Haskell community itself might  > be one of the things that MRP breaks.

Geoffrey further wrote:

 > Proposal 3: A decision regarding any proposal that significantly  > affects backwards compatibility is within the purview of the Haskell  > Prime Committee, not the Core Libraries Committee.

I thus definitely support this, at least for anything related to the libraries covered by the Haskell report.

Indeed, I strongly suspect that many people who did not actively follow the libraries discussions did so because they simply did not think that changes to the central libraries as defined in the Haskell report, at least not breaking changes, were in the remit of the libraries committee, and were happy to leave discussions on any other libraries to the users of those libraries. And as a consequence they were taken by surprise by AMP etc.

So before breaking anything more, that being code, research papers, books, what people have learned, or even the community itself, it is time to very carefully think about what the appropriate processes should be for going forward.

Best,

/Henrik

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Henrik Nilsson
School of Computer Science
The University of Nottingham
nhn at cs.nott.ac.uk




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