Is it time to start deprecating FunDeps?

AntC anthony_clayden at clear.net.nz
Thu May 2 01:04:02 CEST 2013


> Martin Sulzmann <martin.sulzmann at ...> writes:

> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM, AntC <anthony_clayden at ...> wrote:
> >
> > I want to replace FD's with Equality Constraints.
> 
> Ok, that's the bit I've missed, but then I argue that you can't fully
> encode FDs.
> 
> Consider again the 'Sum' example.
> 
> In the FD world:
> 
> Sum x y z1, Sum x y z2  ==> z1 ~ z2
> 
> enforced by
> 
> Sum x y z | x y -> z

I'm still not sure you've 'got' it. The class has 2 FD's. Oleg put:
> > >
> > >        class Sum x y z | x y -> z, x z -> y
> > >

> 
> In my TF encoding, we find a similar derivation step
> 
> SumF1 x y ~ z1, SumF1 x y ~ z2 ==> z1 ~ z2
> 

But you haven't captured the FD from {result, arg1} -> arg2.
In the TF example you first posted, you expressed that with an explicit 
equality constraint. (I won't repeat yours, because it wasn't to do with 
Peano Arith.)


> So, you're asking can we translate/express FDs using GHC intermediate 
> language with plain type equations only?

No, not asking, but stating; and not talking about the intermediate 
language, but the surface language.

Could I respectfully suggest you re-read the OP.






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