From tikhon at jelv.is  Thu Nov 12 21:59:28 2020
From: tikhon at jelv.is (Tikhon Jelvis)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:59:28 -0800
Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell.org committee proposals & GRC
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I'm voting:

Proposal 0001: Yes
Proposal 0002: Yes

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM Jasper Van der Jeugt <m at jaspervdj.be> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Haskell.org committee would like to adopt a new proposal format,
> inspired by the GHC Steering Committee.  We have created a repository
> with proposals here:
>
>    https://github.com/haskell-org/committee
>
> I would like to call the members of the committee to vote on these
> proposals, but we also value community feedback.  The two proposals
> are:
>
>  -  0001: Establish the proposal process
>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/1
>  -  0002: Adopt the GRC code of conduct
>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/2
>
> For posterity and archival, I am including the full text of the
> proposals here.  For the record, I am in favor of accepting both
> proposals.
>
> # Proposal 0001: Haskell.org proposals
>
> In an effort to make the work of Haskell.org committee more
> transparent, we would like to adopt a proposal process similar to the
> [GHC Steering Committee].
>
> The proposed process is fairly light:
>
> 1.  New proposals are created as pull requests with a single file,
>     following a `proposals/XYZW-some-title.extention` naming scheme.
>     A template is available in `proposals/0000-template.md`.
>
> 2.  Proposals must have an author set who is responsible for driving
>     the discussion.  If the author is not a member of the Haskell.org
>     committee, we may additionally appoint a shepherd from the
>     committee to help with this.  It is the responsibility of the
>     author and the shepherd to notify any communities that may be
>     interested in the proposal, so we can gather community feedback.
>
> 3.  The proposal must have a link to the PR discussion, so readers can
>     easily find the full discussion once the PR is merged.
>
> 4.  We strive to make unanimous decisions, but we can use a majority
>     vote (the committee has an odd number of members) to move forward.
>
> 5.  What happens next depends on whether or not the proposal is
>     accepted:
>
>      -  If the proposal is accepted, `date-accepted` is set and the
>         proposal is merged into the repository.  A summary with a link
>         to the full PR discussion is sent out to
>         `community at haskell.org`.
>
>      -  If the proposal is not accepted, the proposal is also merged
>         for posterity, but a section is ammended to explain why it was
>         rejected.
>
> # Proposal 0002: Guidelines for Respectful Communication
>
> The Haskell.org committee adopts the [Guidelines for Respectful
> Communication][grc].
>
> This applies only to members of the board, in in all our public
> interactions in the Haskell sphere, including email, social media,
> discussion forums, and so on.
>
> We may later adopt a stricter Code of Conduct, or set a Code of
> Conduct for platforms we manage (e.g. Discourse, mailing lists), but
> that is out of scope for this proposal.
>
> [grc]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/GRC.rst
> [GHC Steering Committee]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals
>
> Warm regards
> Jasper
>
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From rebecca at rebeccaskinner.net  Fri Nov 13 17:10:20 2020
From: rebecca at rebeccaskinner.net (Rebecca Skinner)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:10:20 -0600
Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell.org committee proposals & GRC
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I'm voting:

Proposal 0001: Yes
Proposal 0002: Yes

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 4:00 PM Tikhon Jelvis <tikhon at jelv.is> wrote:

> I'm voting:
>
> Proposal 0001: Yes
> Proposal 0002: Yes
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM Jasper Van der Jeugt <m at jaspervdj.be>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The Haskell.org committee would like to adopt a new proposal format,
>> inspired by the GHC Steering Committee.  We have created a repository
>> with proposals here:
>>
>>    https://github.com/haskell-org/committee
>>
>> I would like to call the members of the committee to vote on these
>> proposals, but we also value community feedback.  The two proposals
>> are:
>>
>>  -  0001: Establish the proposal process
>>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/1
>>  -  0002: Adopt the GRC code of conduct
>>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/2
>>
>> For posterity and archival, I am including the full text of the
>> proposals here.  For the record, I am in favor of accepting both
>> proposals.
>>
>> # Proposal 0001: Haskell.org proposals
>>
>> In an effort to make the work of Haskell.org committee more
>> transparent, we would like to adopt a proposal process similar to the
>> [GHC Steering Committee].
>>
>> The proposed process is fairly light:
>>
>> 1.  New proposals are created as pull requests with a single file,
>>     following a `proposals/XYZW-some-title.extention` naming scheme.
>>     A template is available in `proposals/0000-template.md`.
>>
>> 2.  Proposals must have an author set who is responsible for driving
>>     the discussion.  If the author is not a member of the Haskell.org
>>     committee, we may additionally appoint a shepherd from the
>>     committee to help with this.  It is the responsibility of the
>>     author and the shepherd to notify any communities that may be
>>     interested in the proposal, so we can gather community feedback.
>>
>> 3.  The proposal must have a link to the PR discussion, so readers can
>>     easily find the full discussion once the PR is merged.
>>
>> 4.  We strive to make unanimous decisions, but we can use a majority
>>     vote (the committee has an odd number of members) to move forward.
>>
>> 5.  What happens next depends on whether or not the proposal is
>>     accepted:
>>
>>      -  If the proposal is accepted, `date-accepted` is set and the
>>         proposal is merged into the repository.  A summary with a link
>>         to the full PR discussion is sent out to
>>         `community at haskell.org`.
>>
>>      -  If the proposal is not accepted, the proposal is also merged
>>         for posterity, but a section is ammended to explain why it was
>>         rejected.
>>
>> # Proposal 0002: Guidelines for Respectful Communication
>>
>> The Haskell.org committee adopts the [Guidelines for Respectful
>> Communication][grc].
>>
>> This applies only to members of the board, in in all our public
>> interactions in the Haskell sphere, including email, social media,
>> discussion forums, and so on.
>>
>> We may later adopt a stricter Code of Conduct, or set a Code of
>> Conduct for platforms we manage (e.g. Discourse, mailing lists), but
>> that is out of scope for this proposal.
>>
>> [grc]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/GRC.rst
>> [GHC Steering Committee]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals
>>
>> Warm regards
>> Jasper
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Haskell-community mailing list
> Haskell-community at haskell.org
> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community
>
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From george at wils.online  Sun Nov 15 03:52:30 2020
From: george at wils.online (George Wilson)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:52:30 +1000
Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell.org committee proposals & GRC
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I'm voting:

Proposal 0001: Yes
Proposal 0002: Yes

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 03:10, Rebecca Skinner
<rebecca at rebeccaskinner.net> wrote:
>
> I'm voting:
>
> Proposal 0001: Yes
> Proposal 0002: Yes
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 4:00 PM Tikhon Jelvis <tikhon at jelv.is> wrote:
>>
>> I'm voting:
>>
>> Proposal 0001: Yes
>> Proposal 0002: Yes
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM Jasper Van der Jeugt <m at jaspervdj.be> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The Haskell.org committee would like to adopt a new proposal format,
>>> inspired by the GHC Steering Committee.  We have created a repository
>>> with proposals here:
>>>
>>>    https://github.com/haskell-org/committee
>>>
>>> I would like to call the members of the committee to vote on these
>>> proposals, but we also value community feedback.  The two proposals
>>> are:
>>>
>>>  -  0001: Establish the proposal process
>>>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/1
>>>  -  0002: Adopt the GRC code of conduct
>>>     https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/2
>>>
>>> For posterity and archival, I am including the full text of the
>>> proposals here.  For the record, I am in favor of accepting both
>>> proposals.
>>>
>>> # Proposal 0001: Haskell.org proposals
>>>
>>> In an effort to make the work of Haskell.org committee more
>>> transparent, we would like to adopt a proposal process similar to the
>>> [GHC Steering Committee].
>>>
>>> The proposed process is fairly light:
>>>
>>> 1.  New proposals are created as pull requests with a single file,
>>>     following a `proposals/XYZW-some-title.extention` naming scheme.
>>>     A template is available in `proposals/0000-template.md`.
>>>
>>> 2.  Proposals must have an author set who is responsible for driving
>>>     the discussion.  If the author is not a member of the Haskell.org
>>>     committee, we may additionally appoint a shepherd from the
>>>     committee to help with this.  It is the responsibility of the
>>>     author and the shepherd to notify any communities that may be
>>>     interested in the proposal, so we can gather community feedback.
>>>
>>> 3.  The proposal must have a link to the PR discussion, so readers can
>>>     easily find the full discussion once the PR is merged.
>>>
>>> 4.  We strive to make unanimous decisions, but we can use a majority
>>>     vote (the committee has an odd number of members) to move forward.
>>>
>>> 5.  What happens next depends on whether or not the proposal is
>>>     accepted:
>>>
>>>      -  If the proposal is accepted, `date-accepted` is set and the
>>>         proposal is merged into the repository.  A summary with a link
>>>         to the full PR discussion is sent out to
>>>         `community at haskell.org`.
>>>
>>>      -  If the proposal is not accepted, the proposal is also merged
>>>         for posterity, but a section is ammended to explain why it was
>>>         rejected.
>>>
>>> # Proposal 0002: Guidelines for Respectful Communication
>>>
>>> The Haskell.org committee adopts the [Guidelines for Respectful
>>> Communication][grc].
>>>
>>> This applies only to members of the board, in in all our public
>>> interactions in the Haskell sphere, including email, social media,
>>> discussion forums, and so on.
>>>
>>> We may later adopt a stricter Code of Conduct, or set a Code of
>>> Conduct for platforms we manage (e.g. Discourse, mailing lists), but
>>> that is out of scope for this proposal.
>>>
>>> [grc]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/GRC.rst
>>> [GHC Steering Committee]: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>> Jasper
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Haskell-community mailing list
>> Haskell-community at haskell.org
>> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community
>
> _______________________________________________
> Haskell-community mailing list
> Haskell-community at haskell.org
> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community

From emilypi at cohomolo.gy  Sun Nov 15 06:29:15 2020
From: emilypi at cohomolo.gy (Emily Pillmore)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 06:29:15 +0000
Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell.org committee proposals & GRC
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I'm voting:

Proposal 0001: Yes

Proposal 0002: No

The latter is due to the feelings I have regarding CoC's with no punitive language being relatively useless. However, I've discussed that before, and I'm fine with putting it off until a later date when we discuss something that actually has an impact on our behavior.

Cheers,

Emily

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:52 PM, George Wilson < george at wils.online > wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I'm voting:
> 
> 
> 
> Proposal 0001: Yes
> Proposal 0002: Yes
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 03:10, Rebecca Skinner
> < rebecca@ rebeccaskinner. net ( rebecca at rebeccaskinner.net ) > wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm voting:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Proposal 0001: Yes
>> Proposal 0002: Yes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 4:00 PM Tikhon Jelvis < tikhon@ jelv. is (
>> tikhon at jelv.is ) > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm voting:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Proposal 0001: Yes
>>> Proposal 0002: Yes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM Jasper Van der Jeugt < m@ jaspervdj. be (
>>> m at jaspervdj.be ) > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Haskell. org ( http://haskell.org/ ) committee would like to adopt a
>>>> new proposal format, inspired by the GHC Steering Committee. We have
>>>> created a repository with proposals here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https:/ / github. com/ haskell-org/ committee (
>>>> https://github.com/haskell-org/committee )
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to call the members of the committee to vote on these
>>>> proposals, but we also value community feedback. The two proposals are:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - 0001: Establish the proposal process
>>>> https:/ / github. com/ haskell-org/ committee/ pull/ 1 (
>>>> https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/1 )
>>>> - 0002: Adopt the GRC code of conduct
>>>> https:/ / github. com/ haskell-org/ committee/ pull/ 2 (
>>>> https://github.com/haskell-org/committee/pull/2 )
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For posterity and archival, I am including the full text of the proposals
>>>> here. For the record, I am in favor of accepting both proposals.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> # Proposal 0001: Haskell. org ( http://haskell.org/ ) proposals
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In an effort to make the work of Haskell. org ( http://haskell.org/ ) committee
>>>> more transparent, we would like to adopt a proposal process similar to the
>>>> 
>>>> [GHC Steering Committee].
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The proposed process is fairly light:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. New proposals are created as pull requests with a single file,
>>>> following a `proposals/XYZW-some-title.extention` naming scheme. A
>>>> template is available in ` proposals/ 0000-template. md` (
>>>> http://proposals/0000-template.md` ).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Proposals must have an author set who is responsible for driving the
>>>> discussion. If the author is not a member of the Haskell. org (
>>>> http://haskell.org/ ) committee, we may additionally appoint a shepherd
>>>> from the committee to help with this. It is the responsibility of the
>>>> author and the shepherd to notify any communities that may be interested
>>>> in the proposal, so we can gather community feedback.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The proposal must have a link to the PR discussion, so readers can
>>>> easily find the full discussion once the PR is merged.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 4. We strive to make unanimous decisions, but we can use a majority vote
>>>> (the committee has an odd number of members) to move forward.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 5. What happens next depends on whether or not the proposal is accepted:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - If the proposal is accepted, `date-accepted` is set and the proposal is
>>>> merged into the repository. A summary with a link to the full PR
>>>> discussion is sent out to
>>>> ` community@ haskell. org ( community at haskell.org ) `.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - If the proposal is not accepted, the proposal is also merged for
>>>> posterity, but a section is ammended to explain why it was rejected.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> # Proposal 0002: Guidelines for Respectful Communication
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Haskell. org ( http://haskell.org/ ) committee adopts the [Guidelines
>>>> for Respectful Communication][grc].
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This applies only to members of the board, in in all our public
>>>> interactions in the Haskell sphere, including email, social media,
>>>> discussion forums, and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We may later adopt a stricter Code of Conduct, or set a Code of Conduct
>>>> for platforms we manage (e.g. Discourse, mailing lists), but that is out
>>>> of scope for this proposal.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [grc]: https:/ / github. com/ ghc-proposals/ ghc-proposals/ blob/ master/ GRC.
>>>> rst ( https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/GRC.rst )
>>>> 
>>>> [GHC Steering Committee]: https:/ / github. com/ ghc-proposals/ ghc-proposals
>>>> ( https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals )
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards
>>>> Jasper
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Haskell-community mailing list
>>> Haskell-community@ haskell. org ( Haskell-community at haskell.org )
>>> http:/ / mail. haskell. org/ cgi-bin/ mailman/ listinfo/ haskell-community
>>> ( http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community )
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Haskell-community mailing list
>> Haskell-community@ haskell. org ( Haskell-community at haskell.org )
>> http:/ / mail. haskell. org/ cgi-bin/ mailman/ listinfo/ haskell-community
>> ( http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community )
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Haskell-community mailing list
> Haskell-community@ haskell. org ( Haskell-community at haskell.org )
> http:/ / mail. haskell. org/ cgi-bin/ mailman/ listinfo/ haskell-community
> ( http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community )
> 
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From fa-ml at ariis.it  Sun Nov 15 10:17:23 2020
From: fa-ml at ariis.it (Francesco Ariis)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:17:23 +0100
Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell.org committee proposals & GRC
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Il 29 ottobre 2020 alle 16:22 Jasper Van der Jeugt ha scritto:
> I would like to call the members of the committee to vote on these
> proposals, but we also value community feedback.

Not much of a feedback, but I suspect in proposal #1 «majority» is
really «simple majority» (as opposed to, say, qualified ⅔, etc.)
and «ammended» «amended».


From gueven.bay at googlemail.com  Sun Nov 29 19:43:22 2020
From: gueven.bay at googlemail.com (Gueven Bay)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:43:22 +0100
Subject: [Haskell-community] How to establish a new mailing list?
Message-ID: <CAHonXRA-mE+mOJWMbUPSj4T+L03Lfq2Y1LY4r3OhyqOv8vci_g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am asking here on the community ML because I think you have the
closest connection to the mailing list administrators.

I searched and did not find a mailing list for german users of
Haskell. Also there is no forum for Haskell devs in German.

To establish a German community I want to ask you:
What is the process to start a new mailing list on this
mail.haskell.org? Of course I would like to (help to) moderate and
administer it. The name of the new list should be "haskell-de".

thanks.