From nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com Sun May 24 15:15:58 2020 From: nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com (Nicholas Papadonis) Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 11:15:58 -0400 Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status? Message-ID: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> Hi Folks, You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being copyrighted. The case is still in progress. When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to code with. Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of this API. I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter. If so, what is it? There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself. Therefore if the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the language API is as well. I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using the language API. Appreciate your guidance. Thank you, Nick From gershomb at gmail.com Sun May 24 15:19:41 2020 From: gershomb at gmail.com (Gershom B) Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 11:19:41 -0400 Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status? In-Reply-To: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> References: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> Message-ID: See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/ On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis < nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being > copyrighted. The case is still in progress. > > When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the > authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to > code with. Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of > this API. I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was > only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter. If so, what is it? > > There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / > interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself. Therefore if the > compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the > language API is as well. > > I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed > through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using > the language API. > > Appreciate your guidance. > > Thank you, > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-community mailing list > Haskell-community at haskell.org > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com Sun May 24 15:23:37 2020 From: nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com (Nicholas Papadonis) Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 11:23:37 -0400 Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status? In-Reply-To: References: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you! That puts the language in a better position in regards to being open for anyone to use. LICENSE: "The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the language it specifies. > On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B wrote: > > See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report > https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/ > > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis > wrote: > Hi Folks, > > You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being copyrighted. The case is still in progress. > > When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to code with. Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of this API. I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter. If so, what is it? > > There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself. Therefore if the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the language API is as well. > > I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using the language API. > > Appreciate your guidance. > > Thank you, > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-community mailing list > Haskell-community at haskell.org > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allbery.b at gmail.com Sun May 24 15:30:59 2020 From: allbery.b at gmail.com (Brandon Allbery) Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 11:30:59 -0400 Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status? In-Reply-To: References: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> Message-ID: As a historical note, the openness of the Haskell spec was a reaction to the licensing of the research language Miranda and as such was quite intentional. On 5/24/20, Nicholas Papadonis wrote: > Thank you! That puts the language in a better position in regards to being > open for anyone to use. > > LICENSE: > "The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire > Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for > any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including > this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the > language it specifies. > >> On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B wrote: >> >> See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report >> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/ >> >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis >> > wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being >> copyrighted. The case is still in progress. >> >> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the >> authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to >> code with. Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of >> this API. I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that >> was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter. If so, what >> is it? >> >> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / >> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself. Therefore if >> the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then >> the language API is as well. >> >> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed >> through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using >> the language API. >> >> Appreciate your guidance. >> >> Thank you, >> Nick >> _______________________________________________ >> Haskell-community mailing list >> Haskell-community at haskell.org >> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community >> > > -- brandon s allbery kf8nh allbery.b at gmail.com From nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com Sun May 24 15:34:30 2020 From: nick.papadonis.ml at gmail.com (Nicholas Papadonis) Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 11:34:30 -0400 Subject: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status? In-Reply-To: References: <9807729F-3959-46B8-BF6E-35103E09E983@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41FE31C1-228E-4D89-8CB2-0A97104C6837@gmail.com> Was Miranda a closed license? > On May 24, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > As a historical note, the openness of the Haskell spec was a reaction > to the licensing of the research language Miranda and as such was > quite intentional. > > On 5/24/20, Nicholas Papadonis > wrote: >> Thank you! That puts the language in a better position in regards to being >> open for anyone to use. >> >> LICENSE: >> "The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire >> Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for >> any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including >> this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the >> language it specifies. >> >>> On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B wrote: >>> >>> See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report >>> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/ >>> > >>> >>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis >>> >> wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being >>> copyrighted. The case is still in progress. >>> >>> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the >>> authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to >>> code with. Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of >>> this API. I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that >>> was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter. If so, what >>> is it? >>> >>> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / >>> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself. Therefore if >>> the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then >>> the language API is as well. >>> >>> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed >>> through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using >>> the language API. >>> >>> Appreciate your guidance. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Nick >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Haskell-community mailing list >>> Haskell-community at haskell.org > >>> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community >>> > >> >> > > > -- > brandon s allbery kf8nh > allbery.b at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: