[Haskell-cafe] What is your favourite Haskell "aha" moment?
Brett Gilio
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Thu Jul 12 13:01:04 UTC 2018
Alexey, could you expand on what you mean in your first point? I am
quite intrigued. I do not use Haskell often, but that could be something
of interest to me in-and-out of Haskell.
Brett Gilio
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On 07/12/2018 07:46 AM, Alexey Raga wrote:
> Not sure if it counts as "aha moments", but when I started with Haskell
> I had two major reasons (not in any importance order):
>
> 1. The ability to define the specification (types) and then "just"
> follow them in implementation. Sometimes even without having a clear
> understanding of the things I was using, I felt (and still feel) guided
> towards the right solution.
>
> 2. The ability to refactor fearlessly is a _massive_ productivity boost.
> Hard to underestimate.
>
> Regards,
> Alexey.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:10 PM Simon Peyton Jones via Haskell-Cafe
> <haskell-cafe at haskell.org <mailto:haskell-cafe at haskell.org>> wrote:
>
> Friends____
>
> In a few weeks I’m giving a talk to a bunch of genomics folk at the
> Sanger Institute <https://www.sanger.ac.uk/> about Haskell. They
> do lots of programming, but they aren’t computer scientists.____
>
> I can tell them plenty about Haskell, but I’m ill-equipped to answer
> the main question in their minds: /why should I even care about
> Haskell/? I’m too much of a biased witness.
>
> ____
>
> So I thought I’d ask you for help. War stories perhaps – how using
> Haskell worked (or didn’t) for you. But rather than talk
> generalities, I’d love to illustrate with copious examples of
> beautiful code. ____
>
> * Can you identify a few lines of Haskell that best characterise
> what you think makes Haskell distinctively worth caring about?
> Something that gave you an “aha” moment, or that feeling of joy
> when you truly make sense of something for the first time.____
>
> The challenge is, of course, that this audience will know no
> Haskell, so muttering about Cartesian Closed Categories isn’t going
> to do it for them. I need examples that I can present in 5 minutes,
> without needing a long setup.____
>
> To take a very basic example, consider Quicksort using list
> comprehensions, compared with its equivalent in C. It’s so short,
> so obviously right, whereas doing the right thing with in-place
> update in C notoriously prone to fencepost errors etc. But it also
> makes much less good use of memory, and is likely to run slower. I
> think I can do that in 5 minutes.____
>
> Another thing that I think comes over easily is the ability to
> abstract: generalising sum and product to fold by abstracting out a
> functional argument; generalising at the type level by polymorphism,
> including polymorphism over higher-kinded type constructors. Maybe
> 8 minutes.____
>
> But you will have more and better ideas, and (crucially) ideas that
> are more credibly grounded in the day to day reality of writing
> programs that get work done.____
>
> Pointers to your favourite blog posts would be another avenue. (I
> love the Haskell Weekly News.)____
>
> Finally, I know that some of you use Haskell specifically for
> genomics work, and maybe some of your insights would be particularly
> relevant for the Sanger audience.____
>
> Thank you! Perhaps your responses on this thread (if any) may be
> helpful to more than just me.____
>
> Simon____
>
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