[Haskell-cafe] Batteries included (Was: GHC is a monopoly compiler)

Tony Day tonyday567 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 28 22:35:43 UTC 2016

My solution to the lack of graphics is ipython or a workflow that looks
like it - a loop that renders charts, runs code and places results in a
markdown file, then rendered in the browser.
That's about as live as you can get mixing Windows and open source.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:46 AM Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Olaf Klinke <olf at aatal-apotheke.de>
> wrote:
>> * To compete with other recent teaching languages, a really simple GUI
>> library to use within ghci would be fine. (diagrams and GTK?) Quick Basic
>> included "line" and "circle" commands to play with, even though the rest of
>> the language did not prepare me for more advanced languages.
> This turns out to be much easier if you assume that Windows and OS X are
> not worth supporting, or are happy with forcing users on those platforms to
> jump through annoying hoops (*especially* Windows; there are reasonable
> ways to get gtk on OS X, even though it doesn't come with the system, but
> Windows is still the Wild West as far as third party libraries are
> concerned --- Chocolatey notwithstanding). :/
>> As to the versioning and backward compatibility issues of a standard
>> library: In my eyes the whole concept of version numbers is broken.
>> Dependencies should be stated in terms of type signatures.
> And ghc in fact uses hashes generated from this. But this has to include
> the signatures of internals because they can leak out for inlining --- so
> you still have more problems than other languages do.
> --
> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine
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