[Haskell-cafe] CPU with Haskell support

Maurizio Vitale mrz.vtl at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 17:09:53 UTC 2016


Many attempts were done in this area in the late 80s/early 90s (and before
if you don't focus on lazy evaluation; search lisp machine).
Search hardware graph reduction.

The major problem has always been that producing a dedicated CPU is
expensive and there's no way to keep up with the progresses in general
purpose processor that can justify investments with a hugely larger user
base.
At some point there were even attempts of placing computation in the memory
itself (typically using very fine grain combinators,  SKI reduction and the
such)
People have given up even on hardware support for small subproblems, such
as garbage collection.

As for modifying the instruction set of an Intel processor, I don't know
how feasible it is. But even if it is, consider that the entire
architecture, pipelining, caching, predictions, speculative everythinbg
etc. is hugely optimized for the typical workflow. You change that and all
bets are off w.r.t performance and you may or not be ahead of the same CPU
executing normal code out of a haskell compiler.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Henning Thielemann <
lemming at henning-thielemann.de> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> every now and then I think it would be cool to have a microprocessor that
> supports Haskell in a way. A processor where lazy evaluation is not
> overhead but an optimization opportunity, a processor that can make use of
> the explicit data dependencies in Haskell programs in order to utilize many
> computation units in parallel. I know of the Reduceron project, which
> evolves only slowly and if it somewhen is ready for use it is uncertain
> whether it can compete with stock CPUs since FPGA's need much more chip
> space for the same logic.
>
> I got to know that in todays x86 processors you can alter the instruction
> set, which is mainly used for bugfixes. Wouldn't it be interesting to add
> some instructions for Haskell support? However, I suspect that such a patch
> might be rendered invalid by new processor generations with changed
> internal details. Fortunately, there are processors that are designed for
> custom instruction set extensions:
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xtensa
>
> Would it be sensible to create a processor based on such a design? I have
> no idea what it might cost, and you would still need some peripheral
> circuitry to run it. What could processor instructions for Haskell support
> look like? Has anyone already thought in this direction?
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