[Haskell-cafe] Does web-based email harm mailman lists?

Kim-Ee Yeoh ky3 at atamo.com
Fri Aug 1 09:46:14 UTC 2014


Beautiful haskell people,

Ever noticed the lacunae on some list threads?

Someone hits reply and instead of reflecting via mailman, it goes direct to
OP. OP notices absence of To:haskell-cafe and adds it back in in their
reply to the reply.

End result? The thread looks like OP having a convo with themselves. Unless
you look at the quoted parts, which you have to click to reveal in
web-based email.

The convention, say with a google-groups based mailing list, is that
conversations in mailing list are public by default. With some manual C&P,
you can email responses in private.

For cafe participants using web-based email, the situation is reversed,
through no fault of their own.

Approx 18 months ago, the haskell-beginners list suffered the same problem
[1]. After some digging, it looks like there's a configurable option to Do
The Right Thing:

http://ccit.mines.edu/Mailman-FAQ#25

I was also privately emailed that there are downsides I wasn't aware of:

Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Reply-To Munging Considered Useful
http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.html

So what happened in the aftermath?

Not much that I can tell. Everything just purred along.

Now you might argue that haskell-cafe will just purr along grandly as well
given the status quo.

But this is a wrinkle that probably needs some awareness at least, hence
this email.

Would you like this fixed? The list owner would need to be obliged upon.

[1] http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/beginners/2013-January/011304.html

-- Kim-Ee
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