[Haskell-cafe] off-topic question: why invent new Haskell-like compile-to-js functional languages when we have awesome js_of_ocaml ?

[Patrick Mylund Nielsen]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Ömer Sinan Ağacan <omeragacan at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anyone tried this same test on GHCJS?


I'm definitely interested in seeing the same, but for a recent version of
GHCJS, too.

Personally, I think Fay is great, size- and API-wise for when what you're
making is a "script." When you're making a big/real application, I prefer a
more complete API, and I find that the initial payload size is negligible
in these cases.


> 2013/11/13 Aycan iRiCAN <iricanaycan at gmail.com>:
> > church% hastec --version
> > 0.2.9
> >
> > church% cat > Hello.hs
> > module Main where
> > main = print "Hello world."
> >
> > church% hastec --opt-google-closure --start=asap Hello.hs
> > Compiling Main into .
> > Linking Hello.js
> > Linking Main
> > Linking GHC.IO.Handle.Text
> > Linking Haste.Handle
> > Linking GHC.Tuple
> > Linking GHC.Types
> > Linking GHC.Show
> > Linking GHC.List
> > Linking GHC.Base
> > Linking GHC.IO
> > Running the Google Closure compiler on Hello.js...
> >
> > church% nodejs Hello.js
> > "Hello world."
> >
> >
> > Hello.js 5750 Bytes (46746 bytes without google closure).
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Anton Nikishaev <me at lelf.lu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ömer Sinan Ağacan <omeragacan at gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > That's great news. I wonder if that means it'll be end for Fay and
> >> > similar languages?
> >>
> >> GHCJS's Hello World is 2.1M worth of javascript (well, that's how it was
> >> several month ago, maybe it's better now?). And even google closure
> >> compiled with advanced optimizations it's ~500K.
> >>
> >> Fay's output is 5K after google-closure-mumbo-jumbo.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > 2013/11/12 Patrick Mylund Nielsen <haskell at patrickmylund.com>:
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Jeremy Shaw <jeremy at n-heptane.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Ömer Sinan Ağacan
> >> >>> <omeragacan at gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > I'm aware of this, but when I first tried it a few months ago, it
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > not easy to use at all. Is it changed now?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Last I heard, Luite was waiting for GHC 7.8 to be released because
> it
> >> >>> contains changes that will allow him to upload ghcjs to hackage and
> >> >>> then you will be able to just cabal install it. I could be wrong
> >> >>> though.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as I know, that's correct.
> >> >>
> >> >> The easiest way to install and use it right now is using their
> Vagrant
> >> >> setup:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1fvv5q/ghcjs_introduction_concurrent_haskell_in_the/caeifun
> >>
> >> --
> >> lelf
> >>
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