[Haskell-cafe] Ticking time bomb

Alexander Kjeldaas alexander.kjeldaas at gmail.com
Thu Jan 31 13:28:05 CET 2013

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Ketil Malde <ketil at malde.org> wrote:

> Ertugrul Söylemez <es at ertes.de> writes:
> > And that may even be more harmful, because an insecure system with a
> > false sense of security is worse than an insecure system alone.
> Yes.  As is clear to all, the current low level of security means that
> nobody are _actually_ downloading stuff of Hackage, thank God.  Hackage
> just exists for...well, I forget, but certainly not to distribute
> software.  Right.
> Sarcasm aside, to some extent, this is true.  I used to have a cron job
> 'cabal install'ing my packages off Hackage to ensure that they would
> compile with the current offering of their dependencies.  But I decided
> it was way too risky, and don't do it anymore.
> > Let's do it properly.
> You mean like how it was decisively dealt with when this was discussed
> in 2008?
>   https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/207
> Or maybe more the way it was firmly handled when it was brought up again
> in 2010?
>   http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2010-December/087050.html
> This looks increasingly like that time of year when the problem is
> pointed out, the crypto geeks get together to construct the Optimal
> Solution, and then everybody lose interest and move on to greener
> pastures for a while.  Well, I don't think the perfect solution exists,
> and even if
> it could be identified, it might not be implemented, and even if
> were implemented, it might not be used.
Hehe.. hard to argue against history! :-)


> We've just been incredibly lucky that nothing really bad has happened so
> far.  Let's hope it lasts.
> -k
> --
> If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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