[Haskell-cafe] [Security] Put haskell.org on https

Niklas Hambüchen mail at nh2.me
Mon Oct 29 00:59:26 CET 2012

No matter what we do with cabal, it would be great if I could soon point
my browser at https://haskell.org *anyway*.

On 28/10/12 23:55, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
> Of course, as long as Cabal itself is distributed through this same
> https-enabled site, you have the same PKI-backed security as just about
> any major website. This model has problems, yes, but it's good enough,
> and it's easy to use. If you really want to improve it (without
> impacting usability), have Google/the browser vendors pin the public
> cert for haskell.org <http://haskell.org>.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen
> <haskell at patrickmylund.com <mailto:haskell at patrickmylund.com>> wrote:
>     PGP tends to present many usability issues, and in this case it
>     would make more sense/provide a clearer win if there were many
>     different, semi-untrusted hackage mirrors. Just enable HTTPS and
>     have Cabal validate the server certificate against a CA pool of one.
>     PKI/trusting obscure certificate authorities in Egypt and Syria is
>     the biggest concern here, not somebody MITMing your initial Cabal
>     installation (which in a lot of cases happens through apt-get or
>     yum, anyway.)
>     On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Changaco <changaco at changaco.net
>     <mailto:changaco at changaco.net>> wrote:
>         On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:07:24 -0400 Patrick Hurst wrote:
>         > How do you get a copy of cabal while making sure that somebody
>         hasn't MITMed you and replaced the PGP key?
>         Ultimately it is a DNS problem. To establish a secure connection
>         with
>         haskell.org <http://haskell.org> you'd have to get the
>         certificate from the DNS, but that
>         technology is not ready yet, so all you can do is check the key
>         against
>         as many sources as possible like Michael Walker said.
>         On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:46:06 -0400 Patrick Hurst wrote:
>         > So why not use HTTPS?
>         Because it doesn't solve the problem.
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