[Haskell-cafe] [Security] Put haskell.org on https

[Ramana Kumar]

Who is the webmaster for haskell.org? Presumably they will be required in
the process of installing the certificate.

As far as obtaining goes, one can obtain a free certificate from StartSSL -
see https://www.startssl.com
There are other CAs, but if nobody has any strong preferences, I recommend
going with them.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Niklas Hambüchen <mail at nh2.me> wrote:

> So how do we go forward about getting the SSL certificate and installing
> it?
>
> On 29/10/12 01:06, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
> > Sure. No matter what's done in Cabal, the clients for everything else
> > will still be mainly browsers.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Niklas Hambüchen <mail at nh2.me
> > <mailto:mail at nh2.me>> wrote:
> >
> >     No matter what we do with cabal, it would be great if I could soon
> point
> >     my browser at https://haskell.org *anyway*.
> >
> >     On 28/10/12 23:55, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
> >     > Of course, as long as Cabal itself is distributed through this same
> >     > https-enabled site, you have the same PKI-backed security as just
> >     about
> >     > any major website. This model has problems, yes, but it's good
> enough,
> >     > and it's easy to use. If you really want to improve it (without
> >     > impacting usability), have Google/the browser vendors pin the
> public
> >     > cert for haskell.org <http://haskell.org> <http://haskell.org>.
> >     >
> >     > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen
> >     > <haskell at patrickmylund.com <mailto:haskell at patrickmylund.com>
> >     <mailto:haskell at patrickmylund.com
> >     <mailto:haskell at patrickmylund.com>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     PGP tends to present many usability issues, and in this case it
> >     >     would make more sense/provide a clearer win if there were many
> >     >     different, semi-untrusted hackage mirrors. Just enable HTTPS
> and
> >     >     have Cabal validate the server certificate against a CA pool
> >     of one.
> >     >     PKI/trusting obscure certificate authorities in Egypt and
> Syria is
> >     >     the biggest concern here, not somebody MITMing your initial
> Cabal
> >     >     installation (which in a lot of cases happens through apt-get
> or
> >     >     yum, anyway.)
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Changaco
> >     <changaco at changaco.net <mailto:changaco at changaco.net>
> >     >     <mailto:changaco at changaco.net <mailto:changaco at changaco.net>>>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     >         On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:07:24 -0400 Patrick Hurst wrote:
> >     >         > How do you get a copy of cabal while making sure that
> >     somebody
> >     >         hasn't MITMed you and replaced the PGP key?
> >     >
> >     >         Ultimately it is a DNS problem. To establish a secure
> >     connection
> >     >         with
> >     >         haskell.org <http://haskell.org> <http://haskell.org>
> >     you'd have to get the
> >     >         certificate from the DNS, but that
> >     >         technology is not ready yet, so all you can do is check
> >     the key
> >     >         against
> >     >         as many sources as possible like Michael Walker said.
> >     >
> >     >         On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:46:06 -0400 Patrick Hurst wrote:
> >     >         > So why not use HTTPS?
> >     >
> >     >         Because it doesn't solve the problem.
> >     >
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