[Haskell-cafe] MPTC or functional dependencies?

Petr P petr.mvd at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 14:16:23 CET 2012


  Hi Kim-Ee,

you're right, it's a bit misleading.

I thought about TFs too, personally I mostly prefer them over FDs, but I'd
like the library available for as many compilers as possible. 'semigroups'
is just Haskell 98 and I'd like to keep the requirements similarly low.

  Best regards,
  Petr Pudlak


2012/12/21 Kim-Ee Yeoh <ky3 at atamo.com>

> Petr,
>
> Your subject header is misleading: FDs don't make sense without MPTCs.
>
> As you acknowledge at the end, what you're ultimately asking is: to FD or
> not to FD.
>
> Note also, the contemporary debate has shifted to TFs (type families) vs
> FDs.
>
>
> -- Kim-Ee
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Petr P <petr.mvd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Haskellers,
>>
>> I'm working on a small library for representing semigroup (or monoid)
>> actions on a set <http://hackage.haskell.org/package/semigroups-actions>.
>> The MultiParamTypeClasses extension seems to be best suited for the task,
>> as a group can act on many sets, and a set can be acted on by different
>> groups:
>>
>>     -- | Represents an action of semigroup @g@ to set @a at .
>>     --
>>     -- Laws: @'Endo' . 'act'@ must be a homomorphism of semigroups.
>>     class Semigroup g => SemigroupAct g a where
>>         act :: g -> (a -> a)
>>
>> But soon I realized that with MPTC the compiler has problems inferring
>> types and I had to explicitly specify types when using `act` in many
>> places. Because it seems that in most cases a set will have only a single
>> group acting on it, I was thinking about using FDs:
>>
>>     class Semigroup g => SemigroupAct g a | a -> g where
>>
>> But on the other hand, this can limit the generality of the type class. I
>> cannot decide which one I should choose.
>>
>> What would you suggest? According to your experience, would you choose
>> plain MPTC or FD?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Petr Pudlak
>>
>>
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