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Fri Aug 26 17:16:24 CEST 2011
but instead maybe "!".
The OS QNX is a hard real-time OS that uses a message passing IPC. I have
worked QNX and have written a device driver for QNX.
This job posting maybe very unfair argument against C++/OOPs as maybe the
thought is that C++ adds to much "non-determinism" to a hard real-time
problem. In the real-time extension to the POSIX API is a function "mlock"
which locks a process into memory(no swapping) which seriously helps to cut
down on non-determinism. Here Haskell would be worse with its garbage
collector with its attending non-determinism. No "OS function calls" seems
way over the top.
Sorry for my meandering thinking ....
Regards,
Vasili
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Hello,<br><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I received two job postings ... my comments f=
ollows the postings:<br><br>-----------------------------------------------=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"color: black;">#1 Software Deve=
loper</span></u></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"color: =
black;"><span style=3D"text-decoration: none;">=A0</span></span></u></b></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"color: black;">Location: Austin, TX</span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">Duration: 6 months</span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Rate : $60/hr -$70/hr on w2</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<b>Required:</b> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>-
Straight C experience - Generally need a pure C programmer to ideally=20
create 1 C file that can be compiled in Win32/Win64/Dos/Shell/Linux</b></p>=
<p style=3D"margin-left: 0.75in;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><span>a.=
<span style=3D"font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <=
/span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">Prefer C, not C++, but=
if only C++ still consider it.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-left: 0.75in;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><span>b.=
<span style=3D"font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </sp=
an></span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">Past contractors tried to=
do too large of things like templates, huge class structures, etc. so we p=
refer C over C++</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-left: 0.75in;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><span>c.=
<span style=3D"font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <=
/span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">Upper level Windows pr=
ogramming such as .NET detracts because client wants them to think about al=
l targets, not just Windows </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>- Linux experience =96 Generally need to get a Wi=
ndows GUI application to be re-compiled and run in Linux</b></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;">a. Hard to find, so first do a ke=
y word search of Linux <br>
b. Programming applications background is a big plus <br>c. Looking for GUI=
experience so they can scope how the Win32 app looks then implement the sa=
me experience in Linux <br>d. Client is lacking in Linux background, so nee=
d someone that needs minimal help with Linux.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Desired:</b> </p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">- Application development =96 Have several Win32 appli=
cations that need to be compiled as Win64 then tested</p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;">
a. Experience in testing and familiar with looking for corner case scenario=
s</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Low level hardware/software interaction knowl=
edge</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;">a. Apps requir=
e running a SMI to initiate contact, need candidate to understand differenc=
e between virtual and flat addressing<span></span></p>
<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">=A0</span><br>----------------------------=
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<div id=3D"job_header">
<b class=3D"jobtitle"><font size=3D"+1">#2 SMTP EMAIL SERVER - C</font></b>
<br>
<span class=3D"company">Elance</span> -
<span class=3D"location">United States</span>
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=20
<br><a class=3D"view_job_link" href=3D"http://www.indeed.com/rc=
/clk?jk=3D6f0fdd27079eb247&from=3Dvj&grandfrom=3Dja&tk=3D1687hj=
c6n069g1ia" target=3D"_blank">See original job posting at Elance =BB</a>
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</div>
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<span class=3D"summary">Developer to provide ANSI C software to send=20
(receive not required) email using an SMTP Server. This software must=20
support: ? AUTH_LOGIN (base 64 encoding) ? NTLM ?
<br><br>
NTLM2 ? CRAM MD5 This software is targeted to run on an embedded=20
microcontroller but can be developed in Linux or Windows. The following=20
requirements MUST be met: ? No C++, No C++ Classes...etc ?
<br><br>
No .NET ? No DLLs ? No Libraries ? No OS dependencies (Windows/QNX/MQX or a=
ny other OS) ?
<br><br>
No OS Function Calls ? 100% ANSI C Source is required. Desired Skills: C
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<br>Both seem to want to have nothing with C++ (dare I say OOPS?). I work i=
n mainstream industry. Have others on the mail list seen such job postings =
recently?<br>=A0Is there now a trend against C++ due to somewhat loose type=
checking and very statefullness? (Unlike Haskell which splits pure and mon=
ads very clearly vis strong types).<br>
<br><br>#1<br>To C++ templates are much more bulky(and ugly) compared Haske=
ll's polymorphic types. However, it caused me to think where we Haskell=
programmers can do "too large of things". ??? Perhaps an unfair =
question given that I have no access to the current C++ code.<br>
<br><br><br><br>#2<br>From the context of #2, I can tell the author didn=
9;t mean all of the "?"'s but instead maybe "!".<br=
><br>The OS QNX is a hard real-time OS that uses a message passing IPC. I h=
ave worked QNX and have written a device driver for QNX. <br>
This job posting maybe very unfair argument against C++/OOPs as maybe the t=
hought is that C++ adds to much "non-determinism" to a hard real-=
time problem. In the real-time extension to the POSIX API is a function &qu=
ot;mlock" which locks a process into memory(no swapping) which serious=
ly helps to cut down on non-determinism. Here Haskell would be worse with i=
ts garbage collector with its attending non-determinism. No "OS functi=
on calls" seems way over the top.<br>
<br><br>Sorry for my meandering thinking ....<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Va=
sili<br>
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