[Haskell-cafe] ping haskell.org timeout
ketil at malde.org
Fri Aug 26 08:46:56 CEST 2011
Jason Dagit <dagitj at gmail.com> writes:
>>> Lots of servers turn off ICMP packet responses these days
>> Because users don't really need error messages, that's privileged
>> information for system administrators.
> Besides, if someone is trying to debug http protocol issues using
> ICMP, they're taking an awfully indirect route.
Yes, first thing would be to check the log files. Oh, wait, users don't
have read permissions for those...
> I think the reason it gets disabled is typically well intentioned.
And we all know where that road leads - to frustration and low quality
services, that's where.
Sorry for my grumpiness - this is a constant struggle for me. :-)
>> It takes a while to complete with no visual feedback. Perhaps the
>> network is just slow? Or perhaps the web pages are cached somewhere
>> along the way?
> All of those are plausible [..]
Perhaps 'cabal update' should provide some visual feedback by default?
There's -v, but there's still a noticable pause (15 seconds on a fairly
beefy computer and a good connection) between "Downloaded to [..]" and
"Reading available packages...".
The index is 3MB, it's probably not big enough that a smarter protocol
(rsync/rdiff?) would improve things? Except perhaps checking that it
has been updated since the last update - that'd probably save a ton of
bandwidth if/when people do automatic updates.
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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