[Haskell-cafe] Re: Should Yesod.Mail be a separate package?

[Kevin Jardine]

Something along the lines of these examples would be helpful I think:

http://phpmailer.worxware.com/index.php?pg=examples

Phpmailer is probably the most widely used email library, so if it
could be shown that there was a Haskell equivalent (or better), I
think that might start attracting the attention of web developers.

Kevin

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, Robert Wills <wrwi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes you're right Kevin.  I'll put up a new release sometime in the
> next week with some more examples
> and possible some simpler methods if only so HaskellNet can be more
> easily evaluated.
>
> As I recall Happstack also uses an smtp library.  I forget which one.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Kevin Jardine <kevinjard... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Robert,
>
> > I did look at HaskellNet a few months ago.
>
> > It looked big and undocumented so I guess I got scared away.
>
> > What I'd be interested in is something with the simplicity of the PHP
> > mail command (or perhaps the phpmailer package).
>
> > I dislike PHP as a programming language but it does basic web
> > functions like outgoing email fairly well.
>
> > Perhaps HaskellNet just needs more documentation and examples?
>
> > Kevin
>
> > On Oct 17, 10:05 am, Robert Wills <wrwi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Last summer I put cabalized HaskellNet (written by Jun Mukai for a
> >> GSOC) (http://hackage.haskell.org/package/HaskellNet)
> >> and uploaded it to hackage.  I put myself down as a maintainer but I
> >> haven't done much maintaining.
>
> >> HaskellNet also does multipart mime and base64 stuff as well as imap
> >> and pop access.  I haven't looked at Michael's package yet -- I'll
> >> have a look this morning
> >> to compare.
>
> >> I've been meaning to add try to tls support to HaskellNet.
>
> >> I don't have any huge attachment to HaskellNet so I'd be happy to just
> >> help to migrate the useful bits of it to some larger official email
> >> package.
>
> >> -Rob
>
> >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Kevin Jardine <kevinjard... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Michael,
>
> >> > Last time I checked Hackage for email libraries I could find some
> >> > basic SMTP systems but nothing very recent or robust.
>
> >> > Practically every web app needs to send email, so I think that a
> >> > robust and well maintained email package would be very useful.
>
> >> > I know you have many other projects going at the minute, but if you
> >> > had a chance to create a stand alone email package, I'd be interested
> >> > in trying it out.
>
> >> > I've been working on a web app engine that combines Heist from Snap
> >> > and several of the WAI packages with an object store system I've
> >> > developed myself (and will release on Hackage at some point). Email
> >> > was a missing piece and it sounds like your package could fill the gap
> >> > nicely.
>
> >> > Kevin
>
> >> > On Oct 17, 8:11 am, Michael Snoyman <mich... at snoyman.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hey all,
>
> >> >> I wrote a simple email module in Yesod[1] that handles such things as
> >> >> multipart messages and Base64 encoding. It's still missing some
> >> >> features (multipart/alternative, for instance), but it can be useful
> >> >> for throwing together emails. It's currently part of the yesod
> >> >> package, but I'm going to be moving it to a separate package to free
> >> >> me up to make breaking API changes more frequently.
>
> >> >> As of right now, I'm just going to move it into the yesod-auth package
> >> >> (also being split off from the main yesod package), and therefore it
> >> >> will still have all the dependencies on Yesod. My question is whether
> >> >> people would find this package useful outside the scope of Yesod.
> >> >> There are no dependencies from this module onto any Yesod-specific
> >> >> stuff, so this separation could easily be done. I just don't feel like
> >> >> adding another package to maintain if no one is interested.
>
> >> >> So if anyone wants this offered up as a separate package, and/or has
> >> >> any API suggestions, please let me know.
>
> >> >> Michael
>
> >> >> [1]http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/yesod/0.5.4/doc/html/Yeso...
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