[Haskell-cafe] Serialization of (a -> b) and IO a
illissius at gmail.com
Thu Nov 11 08:20:14 EST 2010
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Jesse Schalken <jesseschalken at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/11/11 Gábor Lehel <illissius at gmail.com>
>> Obviously there are questions here with regards to the functions which
>> the to-be-serialized function makes use of -- should they be
>> serialized along with it? Required to be present when it is
>> deserialized? Is it OK for the function to do something different when
>> it is loaded compared to when it was stored if its environment is
>> different, or not OK?
> I would have say Yes, No, No. At the moment, when you serialise data
> structure A which references data structure B which references data
> structure C, using Data.Binary for example, the whole lot (A, B, and C) gets
> serialised, so that the resulting deserialization of A is
> denotationally equivalent to the original, regardless of the environment. I
> don't see why this shouldn't be the case for functions also.
> So a serialized function should include all its direct and indirect callees.
> This might result in potentially simple functions ending up enormous when
> serialized, simply because the call graph, including all it's libraries and
> their libraries etc, is that size, but such would be pure function
> This raises the question of what is left. The assembled machine code? For
> the architecture of the serializer or of the deserializer? Or LLVM IR
> for architecture independence? C--? Core? I don't know, but it would be
> awesome for the serialized representation to be both low-level and
> architecture independent, then having it JIT compiled when it is
> deserialized. To me, this means a virtual machine, which I guess is what you
> need when you want fast mobile code, but I'm just musing here as I know
> little about programming language implementation.
I'm not an expert here either, I'll just note that LLVM is only
platform independent to a degree. Or rather, I believe the situation
is that it *is* architecture independent, but it doesn't abstract
anything else besides the architecture -- so if you have any other
differences, it's not going to work. LLVM IR doesn't do #ifdefs.
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