[Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Alberto G. Corona agocorona at gmail.com
Mon Mar 29 12:01:29 EDT 2010

math is not a single hability. topology is not the same than algebra.
multiply two numbers or solving an integral by means of a known algoritm has
nothing in common with finding the solution to a mathematical problem that
is unknown forr the person. Spatial reasoning is not the same than appliying
a known mathematical method. Depending on the mathematical tests, you can
easily conclude that men and woman are equal  or even that women outperform
men. But in what is more genuinelly mathematical reasoning, men are better.

moreover, Usually, men have more dispersion in IQ tests. threare more men in
both sides of the spectrum.

Even in the case that both sexes are equal in math habilities (that is not
the case), men congenitally have more pleasure and play/invest more time in
engineering. There are evolutionary reasons why men do so. Women excel at
other  habilities for the same reason. .

Enough for an off topic subject.  It is an interesting subject anyway.


2010/3/29 Jeff Heard <jefferson.r.heard at gmail.com>

> The Wisconsin study, which was done in the 1980s and then redone last
> year is the primary source for that, and it presents data that there
> is no real difference between women and men in math ability.  The only
> *statistically* significant (bold because significant is a technical
> term, not a term denoting quality) difference that remains in the
> revisited study (which can be found in Nature toward the latter half
> of last year, but I don't have the ref. on me at the moment) is
> between the variances in IQ and testing distribution between the two
> genders.  This causes more men to be in the 95th and above percentiles
> on the tests that were given, however given what we know about the
> tests and work from the specific branch of organizational psych known
> as testing theory, the number of questions that differentiates the
> populations in the 90th and above percentiles is too small to be
> meaningful.  To put together a real test on the extrema of
> mathematical ability for both genders, one would have to construct a
> second test that tests only extraordinary populations.
> So in other words, the results are significant, technically, but using
> them to derive the conclusion that the best men are better at
> engineering and math isn't possible.  It's another hypothesis, and not
> explained by the results of the study.
> By the way, I've been on many programming mailing lists and other
> techie mailing lists where this subject has come up, and I've never
> seen it so rationally discussed as on this mailing list...
> -- Jeff
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Alberto G. Corona <agocorona at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> IQ tests, for example. google it.
> >>
> >> 2010/3/28 Jochem Berndsen <jochem at functor.nl>
> >>>
> >>> Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> >>> >  The reasons for the sexual differences in mathematical abilities are
> >>> > different, because math abilities  are not a -primary- reason for
> >>> > survival.  Tools engineering and mastering is. If this is politically
> >>> > incorrect I beg you pardon, but this is my honest theory about that.
> My
> >>> > other hobby is evolution and evolutionary psichology.  I really
> >>> > recommend to learn about it.
> >>>
> >>> Could you point us to any evidence that supports your assumption that
> >>> there are "sexual differences in mathematical abilities"?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Jochem
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jochem Berndsen | jochem at functor.nl
> >>
> >
> >
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