[Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

Phyx lonetiger at gmail.com
Sat Jul 17 08:54:21 EDT 2010

Hi Chris,
I like it, I just have 2 small observations:

1. I don't think it's actually centered, on my resolution from the left to the "The Haskell Platform" is about 8 inches, but from the right to it is 11.
    My eyes just keep telling me "something's wrong"

2. Could you maybe update the windows flag from that xp flag to the current mate one? I think it would also look better on that design http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/gallery/logos/web/Windows_generic_v_web.jpg

Or the current windows 7 flag http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/gallery/logos/web/Windows7_v_Web.jpg 

The colors I believe are much nicer on those.


-----Original Message-----
From: haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Done
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 14:32
To: Andrew Coppin
Cc: haskell-cafe at haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

On 17 July 2010 13:37, Andrew Coppin <andrewcoppin at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Thomas Schilling wrote:
>> Haters gonna hate.
> Well, I don't *hate* it. It just looks a little muddy, that's all. I 
> tend to go for bright primary colours. But, as you say, each to their own...
> The actual layout isn't bad. A bit tall-and-thin, but otherwise OK.
>> The new wiki will have a user preference to switch back to the 
>> default monobook style.  You can always do that if you want.  It 
>> doesn't work fully, yet, but that's on my ToDo list.
> Heh, well, maybe if we make half a dozen styles, there will be at 
> least one that everyone is happy with. ;-)

Hi Andy, thanks for the kind words. Whether we like the default theme or not right now, I still think it's important that the first thing a newbie sees makes a good impression. The fact that you can change the default theme to something else is irrelevant. Personally I agree it's a bit Ubuntu without the modernness, it's more Age of Empires/CIV, we-do-archeology-with-our-italics-serif-font (I find it a chore to read, can't imagine what people who aren't native to the Latin character would think), and the Haskell logo is oddly placed so that it looks more like an advertisement, search should always be on the right hand side, navigation should really be on the left, putting on the right is iffy. I do like the orange links. But also if we liked it, regardless, we should do user testing (checkout Don't Make Me Think, Rocket Surgery Made Easy).

Sadly nobody has the time nor inclination to do proper web development and actually test designs and get feedback, so I suppose we're working with the time we've got. At least with theme support, we can write a load of themes, and then perhaps do a vote on what people think makes the best impression as a default. That seems most efficient and fair.
I'll certainly make a couple.

Hats off to Thomas for implementing a more friendly theme.
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