[Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell.org re-design
John Van Enk
vanenkj at gmail.com
Wed Apr 7 14:42:18 EDT 2010
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Thomas Schilling <nominolo at googlemail.com>wrote:
> http://i.imgur.com/kFqP3.png Didn't know about CSS's "rgba" to
> describe transparency. Very useful.
> On 7 April 2010 18:19, Gregory Crosswhite <gcross at phys.washington.edu>
> > Ooo, I really like this revision; it is a major improvement in your
> design! I particularly like the picture you chose for the top, and the new
> way that you have laid out all of the boxes and made the bottom right box a
> different shade so that it is easier to distinguish it as a different
> column. Also, I concur with your use of the "inverted pyramid model", even
> if it comes at the expense of a little redundancy.
> > My only quibble is that I don't like the fact that the summary text at
> the top has a font background color, so that there are in essence several
> boxes around the text of different sizes and with space in between the
> lines. I recognize that the purpose of the font background was to help the
> text contrast with the picture behind it, but it would be nicer if there
> were a better solution, such as by putting a box around all of the text and
> then filling that with color (so there aren't boxes of different sizes
> containing the text and empty spaces between the lines), or by putting a
> translucent box around the text so that we can still see the background but
> it's faded a bit so that the text still shows up.
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> > On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Thomas Schilling wrote:
> >> Yup, I have to agree. The Ruby web site certainly is the best web
> >> site for a programming language that I've come across, but it's
> >> certainly not "amazing". I like the python documentation design, but
> >> their home page is a bit dull. Anyway, here's another variation, this
> >> time with more colour:
> >> http://i.imgur.com/Lj3xM.png
> >> The image is about 80k (while the website alone is < 10k) so I hope
> >> there won't be any bandwidth issues. Regarding the particular
> >> contents:
> >> (a) I won't post another version for every tiny wibble. You know,
> >> you can actually post text via email (yes, really!) so if anyone has
> >> improvements for how the sections should look like, post the suggested
> >> alternative contents on this list.
> >> (b) A little redundancy is no problem at all. I try to follow the
> >> inverted pyramid model: put all the important information at the top,
> >> and add more details below. If that leads to a small amount of
> >> duplication so be it.
> >> (c) As mentioned before, we don't want a perfect home page, we
> >> simply want a better one. Incremental improvements can be made later
> >> on.
> >> (d) Who actually *can* update the homepage? Ian, Ross, Malcolm, Simon
> >> (e) I don't have an iPhone, *Droid, or iPad, so I'd need some help
> >> testing on any of those.
> >> (f) The design is not fixed width, and most sizes are specified in
> >> terms of font size or percentages. I merely added a max-width
> >> restriction so that it still looks decent on maximised screens. I
> >> tried to remove it, but that just doesn't look good anymore.
> >> On 7 April 2010 14:19, Daniel Fischer <daniel.is.fischer at web.de> wrote:
> >>> Am Mittwoch 07 April 2010 04:09:17 schrieb Gregory Crosswhite:
> >>>> While I think that (d) is a valid concern, it is also important not to
> >>>> let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If we agree that the
> >>>> web site layout is sufficiently better than the current one and is
> >>>> enough" aesthetically, then I think we should go ahead and switch to
> >>>> new layout and *then* start thinking about how we could make it
> >>> Good plan.
> >>>> *completely amazing* like the Ruby web site,
> >>> www.ruby-lang.org ?
> >>> Sure, that looks pretty good, but "completely amazing"?
> >>>> because if we demand
> >>>> completely amazing for our *first* try then I fear that all that will
> >>>> happen is that nothing will change because the bar will have been set
> >>>> too high.
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Greg
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